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Seattle and Beyond: The Illegality of the WTO
http://www.covertaction.org ^ | by Michel Chossudovsky

Posted on 11/26/2001 6:12:58 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK

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To: glc1173@aol.com
and are now trying to get a giant professors' retirement fund (TIAA-CREF) to boycott them.

It's not going to happen. Don't make the mistake most Freepers make and confuse a small minority of loud leftwing loonies in academia with the average professor.
21 posted on 11/26/2001 8:42:45 PM PST by Economist_MA
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To: rightofrush
Assume for a moment that that's the case - that all this is supposed to lay the groundwork for the coming "New World Order". Wouldn't the best way to convince others of that truth be to marshal a few actual facts?

I understand the case you want to make, but this guy hasn't given you a whole hell of a lot to hang your hat on. Personally, were I sitting in Professor Chossudovsky's economics class, I'd be seriously considering resigning after reading this - it is a willful misrepresentation of the state of the world today, and I couldn't possibly trust such a person to give me objective knowledge of economics.
22 posted on 11/26/2001 8:47:45 PM PST by general_re
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To: Economist_MA
I will try to simplify:

Far right: Maximum individual freedom.
Far left: No personal freedom, all love Big Brother - May he smile on you and give you peace with your Big Mac.

As you may know, "right" and "left" refered to opposite sides of the 19th century French parliment, terms now out of date. "Free" and "slave" now seem to be more appropriate.

23 posted on 11/26/2001 8:48:14 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: general_re
I wouldn't be an apostle of Chossudovky.

I was just trying to make the point the the WTO, like all other organs associated with the UN, are precursors to the NWO where we all agree to be as one, have a Coke, wear baby blue, and worship Gaia.

24 posted on 11/26/2001 8:56:16 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: rightofrush
Thanks. So many NWO Bush boosters, so little knowlege.

Quote of the day nominee.
25 posted on 11/26/2001 9:07:26 PM PST by July 4th
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To: summer
You might enjoy this thread.
26 posted on 11/26/2001 9:08:24 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: expose
It amazes me how blind some are.
27 posted on 11/26/2001 9:26:29 PM PST by brat
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To: general_re; ATOMIC_PUNK; dighton
There's a message here buried under the heap of socialist garbage that the author piles high. There's a legitimate message but Chossudovsky is the wrong messenger.

Unfortunately the WTO does comprise international bankers who have no interest in the sovereignty of the United States of America. That's the bad news. The worse news is that these same individuals who do control the European continent in terms of lineage and family connections also hobnob together over fashionable issues du jour, such as the ecological movement, the Green parties, Gorbachev's Green Cross and so on.

So the author here is rather inarticulate, and does more disservice to the true issues than he intends to organize against.

In order to see what's going on, you have to get to the European dinner parties and listen in on the politics of the power brokers. That is, if you can fake your standing well enough to listen in. It's rather disgusting. Picture Gorby telling your group of the foolishness of Americans for not adopting the Kyoto accords. Picture some snot nosed French hand holder telling you that Americans are the earth's biggest polluters.

Then take a closer look and look at some real estate developer dudes talking about building a resort in the Bahamas once the land is "acquired". Of course to do the latter will require moving Bahama's blacks off the land and to do that means undercutting their businesses, coaxing them to take loans they can't repay and then bankrupting them. The formula works. The IMF does the bidding of the planners and the mission gets accomplished. That's what the author is alluding to only he is nuts. (Incidentally in the Bahamas, the IMF paid off the local politicians, brought in alot of Chinese to work on farms to undercut the locals, and imported alot of goods to sell to tourists so the locals lost some big bucks; result was massive bankruptcies and property foreclosures.)

What bothers me is not the MNCs. I like Exxon, I own stock in alot of MNCs. No what gets me is what Perot said in 92: "I love this country and I don't want to see it fall in the hands of a few international financiers". There are a lot of global Ted Turners out there that think Americans are a stupid lot, and we don't deserve what we have. That's the danger of the WTO, World Bank.

You have to see them, talk to them, learn their names and their opinions. The picture that emerges is that they believe the USA is a colonial relic of the past, a cowboy with nuclear missiles. They try and set themselves up as judge and jury. When a powerful American patriot shows up, they try and pooh-pooh such an appearance as unfortunate and in bad taste. They really are arrogant asses and they attract alot of American industrialists and bankers to their cliques.

There is a message here that we should wake up to. The message is not new. It's the same as it has ever been. It's the European upper class looking down their noses at American independence.

28 posted on 11/26/2001 9:34:11 PM PST by Hostage
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To: brat
People are scared of the Truth!!
29 posted on 11/27/2001 7:55:09 AM PST by expose
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To: Hostage
Thanks for the heads-up to your thoughtful reply.

Let's not be *too hard* on the Euroweenies. Being snotty to Americans is a healthful outlet for their pent-up aggressive tendencies, which would otherwise boil over in acts of ...

Oh, what's the use? Devil take 'em.

30 posted on 11/27/2001 8:15:22 AM PST by dighton
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To: rightofrush
Far right: Maximum individual freedom.

Lunatic right: Maximum individual freedom unless you want to do business with someone who we don't approve of, or unless you want to have a consensual sexual relationship with someone we don't approve of, or unless you are someone we don't approve of.
31 posted on 11/27/2001 10:00:29 AM PST by Economist_MA
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To: Economist_MA
Please do me the favor of not answering any of my posts.
Anyone with a post name such as yours must have a very fragle ego and overly prone to press the "abuse" button.

Your posts are far too easy to abuse, and I am only human.

32 posted on 11/27/2001 12:28:57 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: Hostage; general_re; Economist_MA; sinkspur
Re your #28:

A very thoughtful post that I completely agree with. I hope that the nay-sayers on this thread give it the attention it deserves.

33 posted on 11/27/2001 12:38:11 PM PST by rightofrush
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To: rightofrush
Dear rightofrush,

please don't worry, I have never hit the abuse button on anyone, and I have no intention of changing this in your case. Instead of abuse you may want to consider using some arguments and/or facts from time to time though, it can be fun. And no, putting the scare-words of the loony right (bankers, corporations, trade, money, commerce) into every second post doesn't count as an argument.
34 posted on 11/27/2001 1:48:02 PM PST by Economist_MA
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To: rightofrush
Very interesting thread. Thanks for the flag! :)
35 posted on 11/27/2001 6:33:13 PM PST by summer
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