Proposed visa ban dropped

Boston Globe ^ | By Cindy Rodríguez

[KirkandBurke]

Senator Dianne Feinstein, a California Democrat, is instead focusing on the creation of a biometric card for all visa holders that would contain their fingerprint and a retinal scan.

First the foreigners, then the citizens. Digital Angel, the sub-dermal global positioning and informational chip, debuts on the market Monday, November 26, 2001. Biometrics is being pushed and will be incrementally implemented until we are all tagged and monitored.

Sounds like it's all about foreign nationals,protecting our country, preventing fraud, ensuring safety, but it will be used to fence us in, like those electronic dog fences. Tagged, monitored and controlled.

[F16Fighter]

Okay, then we can tighten security and as Dianne Feinstein (I'm actually agreeing with her??) has suggested, enact biometric cards which scans retinas and records finger prints. I suggest this procedure for ALL immigrants within the last five years only and of course ALL visa applicants.

As far as any subsequent immigration to the U.S., there's evidence to support a complete moratorium for at least five years, and a 25 year moratorium on immigration from the entire Middle East.

[bluefish]

I have no idea. But I imagine there are a few of them! Some on valid Visas, some on forged Visas and some on expired Visas. I also imagine that if every signle one of them had been investigated thoroughly, some of them would have had black markes preventing their entry into this country.

[bluefish]

How about this: The universities become responsible for the "students" who are here on Student Visas. If the student commits any single criminal act, the University loses X number of dollars in Federal Grant money. If the student commits a terrorist act, the school loses the right to provide services to foreign nationals. After all, their lobby efforts for the sake of a buck is causing a security risk. Furthermore, the schools are held financially accountable for expired Student Visas.

[F16Fighter]

"Educators", yeah, right. All that is is a euphemism for state-sanctioned "brain-washers." That's what the Gestapo and Goebbels did when when they "educated" the German people once upon a time.

Just who the h*ll does this elitist mob of anti-American subversives think they are representing?? I guess we already know that answer JD.

[DoughtyOne]

Nothing changes but the deminution of the rights of US Citizens to correct problems they had done nothing to create.

Let me see 80% of the Denver airport personel weren't even citizens. Baggage checkers would be placed on the line with less than 48 hours training. They were paid near minimum wage and yet all other manner of problems have to be fixed. If the airports had been run the way we were told they were, I'm thinking we wouldn't have had to endure 09/11. What's more, we woudn't be having to turn our airports into war zones and life would have continued as it should have.

Now we've got f-ing tanks at our airports. Evidently our fearless leaders feel that's the proper course. We couldn't possibly impose an incovenience on foreign nationals could we.

Does anyone remember when it used to be a bonus to be a US Citizen? Now it's a plus if you aren't.

We're the biggest saps on the face of the planet. Our officials continue to abuse us and attack us as if we were the problem, when they are. And the foreign nationals are treated with the utmost respect, something we haven't had for what, a decade or more. This sucks!

[bluefish]

OK. I just read the list you posted and see the point you were making. It appears that tourist visas or business visas appear to be a bigger problem than student visas. This would cause me to have to rethink everything. A question though: How long does a tourist visa last and are there any procedures in place to insure that somebody who has entered the country on one has left? I know that some countries make you pay an exit fee. This would be a nice way to cover the cost.

[expose]

Now we've got f-ing tanks at our airports

POLICESTATE

[JD86]

They are representing the trust fund of their individual universities...period. Unfortunately, you will find few, if any, patriots in today's universities....Queen Elizabeth of Iowa excepted of course.

[MissAmericanPie]

I guess this means we should be ready for more Middle East students arriving for flight school. These congress critters better be so glad they have managed to import enough votes to keep them in office.

[LiberalBassTurds]

''It would've put a chill on the most talented people entering the US,'' said Kevin Casey, senior director of federal and state government relations at Harvard. ''It would have created a `foreigners need not apply' sign.''

Gutless. Gee Kev sorry knock your Liberal sensibilities out of whack. We are one big 7-11 store aren't we, open 24 X 7 to serve foreigners day or night.

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing some of the "most talented" terroists prevented from entering the US. Given their ages and or inability to assure that they actually attend classes this seems like a loophole big enough to drive a truck through (pun intended).

[expose]

will congress do with terrorists- kill 100000 American? will they stop all visa

[MissAmericanPie]

It will take that before they ever make any move to protect our borders or tighten immigration policies. I said that from day one.

You and I are much easier to replace with third worlders than free trade, open borders, or slave labor. It will only be when they, in fear of the masses, dare not do something.

[Irish Eyes]

The six month moratorium would have been a good START. Feinstein has been bought.

[Criminal Number 18F]

Because no one will discriminate in the word's original sense of make a distinction -- in this case, between students who come to join us and those who intend to bury us.

No one seems to want to face the fact that these terrorists are encompassed by certain specific nationalities and certain religious background. Rather than give heightened scrutiny to others who fit the profile and (gasp!) discriminate, they prefer to see it as a choice between "borders wide open" and "borders shut tight."

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Dialup Llama]

>''It would've put a chill on the most talented people entering the US,'' said Kevin Casey, senior director of federal and state government relations at Harvard.

The most talented people are born right here in the US, but Harvard prefers the sophisticated and exotic flavor of the alien to the American born student.

[FreedomFriend]

Your assessment is the most likely scenerio. It's the precursor to the Mark of the Beast.

By the way, thanks for the articles.

[blaze]

Well, it looks like it's going to get a lot worse, before it gets better. If the universities are going to make decisions over the will fo the American public, we are in deep doo-doo!!!!!!

[blaze]

Sorry I meant to say "of".

[XGMan]

Thanks Diane. It's comforting to know you value foreign profits of education instutitions far more than the security of the American people. All of us here in Beijing really appreciate your efforts...