kangharue:
Technically, they cannot be "anti-Christ", or against Christ/Messiah, because they believe that Jesus WAS the Messiah. The Jews would come closer to "anti-Christ" than the Muslims.
Miss:
and the demand of their god for the death or conversion of the infidel makes them far too alien to live among Christians.
kangharue:
Their god demands death or conversion of the infidel? I see this claim being bantered around a lot here, but no one seems ready to back it up with some sort of argument.
Also, Islam expanded its RULE. Religious minorities were free to live under Islamic rule provided they payed something called a "jizyah". In fact, I believe that at times the Ottomans even discouraged conversions (or forbid them) because of the money coming from the "jizyah".
I know Christians who were able to amass considerable wealth living under Islamic rule....in the Ottoman empire. This is not to say that everything was great under Ottoman rule, but it wasn't all bad either. My husband's family left after the Ottoman empire fell..and fled to Greece. After seeing how the Greeks treated Catholics, they wanted to return to life under the Ottomans!
What are you talking about? Islam condemns as a most grievous heresy the belief that Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh, that he died on the cross and was resurrected three days later. This "heresy" is the perfect, the absolute and essential foundation of Christian faith. To reject this "heresy" is to deny Christ not just a little bit, but wholly.
Technically, practically, historically, doctrinely, completely and in all ways Islam is anti-Christ.
If you want to drag the Jews into a debate about Muslims, you make me very suspecious then yes they too are anti-Christ, but in no way do they take their belief that we Christians have corrupted their history in the Torah to the extreme violence that Muslim fanatics do.
In life as in every religion there is a rainbow of attitudes within a core belief. In the Christian community 95% will not launch a religious war, we are told to live in peace as much as possible with all men and wait for the second coming. The Jewish community will not launch a religious war unless attacked. Only some Muslims are pro-active because of the need to promote the will of some weak god that has no power of his own over mankind, and a majority of moderate Muslims seem loath to be critical of their violent brothers who live trapped in terror of a god that commands them to violence and inhuman obedience, Ben Ladin himself is quivering in a cave somewhere in terror of meeting that afterlife and that god.
"Their god promotes death or conversion of the infidel? I see this bantered alot around here, but no one seems ready to back it up with some sort of argument"Are you feigning ignorance of all the proof and dicussion that has been offered on this forum in thread after thread for two months? Are you blind to what is going on in the world around you in radical Muslim nations and their treatment of all other religions? I think your trying to fool someone here and your wasting your time, the fires have not gone out at the Towers for Muslims to deny that it ever happened.
Do they believe in the death of Christ on the cross followed by his resurrection three days later? Do they believe in the holy Trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?
Or do they believe that Christ was merely an apostle of God, no different than any other man? That he was not the Son of God, but rather, just another man?