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1 posted on 11/19/2001 2:03:57 PM PST by FF578
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To: FF578
Would you like some cheese with that whine?

By all means, persuade JR to purge libertarians. Until then, remember you are in his house and he sets the rules. Obviously, he has not seen fit to remove non-inflammatory libertarian-leaning posts. If you don't like it, take it up with him. Why post a vanity under a week old account and then claim you're an old member? Are libertairans more destructive to FR than still vanity posts?

175 posted on 11/19/2001 2:58:05 PM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: FF578
Iv'e been thinking about this and don't really have a answer. I do believe that there is a much wider variety of opinions on FR than I expected to see on a conservative site, but then the membership has grown alot in the last couple of months. I try not to get into shouting matches and only respond that way when shot at first, but I have been getting shot at first alot. I may get shot at again but I do think the libertarians tend to be a little quick with the trigger. They have some very good points to make and discuss.

I don't want to be thought of as a enemy like a treasonous marxist or something. I'm just a middle of the road republican.

177 posted on 11/19/2001 2:58:20 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: purereason
Ping
184 posted on 11/19/2001 3:00:10 PM PST by evilsmoker
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"This just in: Someone has complained at Free Republic.
Further details: felt treated disrespectfully.

In other news Mohammed Atif is still seriously dead."

187 posted on 11/19/2001 3:02:32 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: FF578
Either you've been visiting another FR that I don't know about or you've been huffing glue. FR has become a Bush worshipping, liberal republican amen corner. Anyone who can't see that is being very selective in what they choose to read here.
189 posted on 11/19/2001 3:03:18 PM PST by Twodees
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To: FF578
Just the same crowd with a lot of time on their hands as usual. I have noticed though that they have been able to figure out how to send mail to my freep mail with their usual expletives and nothing more.
191 posted on 11/19/2001 3:04:16 PM PST by KeyLargo
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To: FF578
I've been posting since Nov 11, '00, so we've been on board right about the same amount of time. I do not notice what you do, and that includes lurking since the Republican convention.
196 posted on 11/19/2001 3:07:02 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: FF578
Them danged libertarians stole my underpants.
200 posted on 11/19/2001 3:07:55 PM PST by OWK
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To: FF578
Some of us are guilty of going over to such sites as DU and rattling their cages. They feel they must retaliate. They try to feign a "conservative" demeanor in a futile attempt to avoid discovery. But we all know that descretion is not their strong suit as a rule and they are invariably betrayed by their uncontrollable need to whine and by their knee-jerk reactions to certain "buzz" words. Then they are amazed that when they are outted they are often allowed to stay as long as they are not disruptive, unlike their site where the first hint of dissension is grounds for being permanently banned.

The other side of the issue though is that I have found far more conservative thinkers and independent thinkers here than liberal ones. Its not that they're not allowed; its just that they don't take the heat real well.

220 posted on 11/19/2001 3:15:23 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: FF578
When you get a criticism, click on the persons name. If they haven't been here for a couple of years just assume that they are a member of the 'other side' and IGNORE THEM.
234 posted on 11/19/2001 3:23:01 PM PST by B4Ranch
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To: FF578
I notice a big shift over the last few months....It seems to me that the female voice is loud and clear on FR...hence the shift from conservative views to liberal...
240 posted on 11/19/2001 3:27:00 PM PST by thinking
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To: geaux; Victoria Delsoul; Texaggie79; dead; TomServo; nunya bidness; glock rocks
Time to hijack the thread:

My complaint about Ted Nugent

Ted Nugent's worst transgressions are systematically whitewashed by the press. To counteract that whitewash, I will use the remainder of my space here to expose Nugent for who he really is. To begin with, Nugent and his helpers are, by nature, blockish bourgeoisie. Not only can that nature not be changed by window-dressing or persiflage, but either Nugent has no real conception of the sweep of history, or he is merely intent on winning some debating pin by trying to pierce a hole in my logic with "facts" that are taken out of context. This is partly connected with what I wrote earlier concerning featherbrained malicious-types. This is all well and good, but his warnings are not an abstract problem. They have very concrete, immediate, and unpleasant consequences. For instance, I can unmistakably suggest how he ought to behave. Ultimately, however, the burden of acting with moral rectitude lies with Nugent himself. Having said that, let me add that if I seem a bit pouty, it's only because I'm trying to communicate with him on his own level.

I myself like to face facts. I like to look reality right in the eye and not pretend it's something else. And the reality of our present situation is this: The picture I am presenting need not be confined to Nugent's views. It applies to everything he says and does. If you ask Nugent if it's true that things that you or I might regard as shiftless or intemperate might be considered by his cat's-paws as an article of faith, a philosophical conviction, a political opinion, or even an innocuous form of entertainment, you'll just get a lot of foot-shuffling and downcast eyes in response. His impolitic catch-phrases leave the current power structure untouched while simultaneously killing countless children through starvation and disease. Are these children Nugent's enemies? The answer to this question gives the key not only to world history, but to all human culture.

When you reflect upon this, you'll realize that it's easy enough to hate him any day of the week on general principles. But now I'll tell you about some very specific things that he is up to, things that ought to make a real Nugent-hater out of you. First off, he wants to use both overt and covert deceptions to scorn and abjure reason. You know what groups have historically wanted to do the same thing? Fascists and Nazis. Almost every day, he outreaches himself in setting new records for arrogance, deceit, and greed. It's really breathtaking to watch him. The only way I can possibly forgive Nugent is if he tells the truth and makes restitution. His accomplices probably don't realize that, because it's not mentioned in the funny papers or in the movies. Nevertheless, I have to laugh when Nugent says that human beings should be appraised by the number of things and the amount of money they possess instead of by their internal value and achievements. Where in the world did he get that idea? Not only does that idea contain absolutely no substance whatsoever, but if I hear his spin doctors say, "Nugent can change his raucous ways" one more time, I'm doubtlessly going to throw up.

Nugent's memoirs have merged with anti-intellectualism in several interesting ways. Both spring from the same kind of reality-denying mentality. Both mold the mind of virtually every citizen -- young or old, rich or poor, simple or sophisticated. And both support hostile governments known for human rights abuses, wrongful imprisonment, and slavery. Everybody knows that Nugent should feel ashamed of himself, but you should consider that it is legitimate to have misgivings about selfish, obstreperous dingbats who leave helpless citizens afraid in the streets, in their jobs, and even in their homes. That concept can be extended, mutatis mutandis, to the way that once you understand his stratagems, you have a responsibility to do something about them. To know, to understand, and not to act, is an egregious sin of omission. It is the sin of silence. It is the sin of letting Nugent demand that loyalty to grungy, superstitious nincompoops supersedes personal loyalty.

I won't lie to you; the ripples of reaction to his disquisitions have spread, giving rise to universal calls to bring the communion of knowledge to all of us. But there's the rub; a central fault line runs through each of his undertakings. Specifically, his jokes have an unsavory historical track record. I challenge him to move from his broad derogatory generalizations to specific instances to prove otherwise. So what if Nugent hates me for pointing out that raving, pushy boors are intrigued and puzzled by his amalgam of illaudable incendiarism and annoying irreligionism -- a tangled web of KKK, Freudian, encounter therapy, populist, Ayn Rand-like, and Marxist notions? Let him hate me. I consider such hatred a mark of honor, a mark of distinction. It should be intuitively obvious even to the most casual observer that he likes to have difficult social issues presented to him in simple, black-and-white terms. Or, to express that sentiment without all of the emotionally charged lingo, the next time he decides to provide financial support to backwards banana republics and their grotesque dictators, he should think to himself, cui bono? -- who benefits? Finally, this has been a good deal of reading, and indeed difficult reading at that. Still, I hope you walk away from it with the new knowledge that Ted Nugent's reports are contrary to international human rights and humanitarian standards.

250 posted on 11/19/2001 3:28:50 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: FF578
Relax. It's like the tide.
254 posted on 11/19/2001 3:30:30 PM PST by b4its2late
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To: FF578
Member since Nov 13th.

Noticed all that in a few days, did you?

266 posted on 11/19/2001 3:36:01 PM PST by DAnconia55
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To: FF578
Ther is so much of their liberal crap on the DU they have to come to the FR to see the real deal. I also got an e-mail from a guy who upset with my non-pc attitude. Look at it this way we ticked them off, I say good job.
285 posted on 11/19/2001 3:43:01 PM PST by vladog
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To: FF578
Forget about the newbies and libs, the "post police" are what bothers me now. Censors run the "Free" republic roughshod. They don't even seem to read the context....if there's a banned keyword, your post is toast.

Cest la vie.

289 posted on 11/19/2001 3:44:16 PM PST by sam_paine
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<< Has anyone noticed that the Liberal influence has spread here into Free Republic. I notice that less and less Conservatives seem to post here, and more and more Libertarians seem to be. >> Liberals and libertarians are not the same. Some libertarians call themselves "classical liberals," but this is very different from the modern definition of liberal. I'd estimate that the average libertarian is approximately 75% "conservative" 25% "liberal." Of course, if you happen to be a hardcore Christian who thinks issues like abortion are very important, you won't like libertarians any better than liberals. You might also object to our (may as well admit I'm one of `em) anti-interventionist views, but that is also shared by many on the far right, another significant minority on FreeRepublic.
292 posted on 11/19/2001 3:44:42 PM PST by Lchris
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To: FF578
Well you of course have the right to your own opinion. All I am going to say is that there are conservatives that are Pro- Choice opinions among others and you seem to be complaining all about how everyone does not have the same opinion as you do. That is not the way this country works and if you have a problem with that there is an easy solution. Go join the Taliban, every one there thinks the same way so they have no problem with whiners like you.We like healthy debate here and listen to each others opinions. If you do not like that then perhaps this is not the right sight for you. cao!
310 posted on 11/19/2001 3:50:33 PM PST by cali4ever
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To: FF578
Hey, you're entitled to your views, but I get a little testy when someone insists the political and religious viewpoint he/she subscribes to is the only voice which should be heard.
I've got a few viewpoints of my own : assembled bit by bit over a 67 year period. I can be pretty hard-headed;but, when the evidence is strong enough, I may change my mind. I have,over the years, concluded :
God didn't annoint either the Republicans or the Democrats;
An awful lot of un-Godly people describe themselves as God's chosen people.
The right of the People to keep and bear arms should be protected and nourished- BUT there are some people who should NEVER be allowed near a gun, a sharp instrument, or anything faster than a 10 speed bike.
If this makes me a disrupter ,sorry 'bout that !!
312 posted on 11/19/2001 3:50:56 PM PST by genefromjersey
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To: FF578
I get a letter from someone

"Private Reply" is considered private, you generally shouldn't talk about the letters people send you in your public posts.

322 posted on 11/19/2001 3:56:01 PM PST by xm177e2
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