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Red Cross donated blood provides DNA information for government databases
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 11/16/01 | Gerard Ryle

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:27 PM PST by dead

The NSW Privacy Commissioner, Chris Puplick, is inquiring into how statistical DNA information extracted from hundreds of blood donors ended up on two State Government databases which have been cited in criminal proceedings.

The databases are housed alongside the Government's DNA crime database at the Health Department's division of analytical laboratories, Lidcombe.

The statistical databases contain only general information about the genetic make-up of the NSW population but the Herald was threatened with a Supreme Court injunction by the Australian Red Cross Blood Service after it asked how the blood was obtained.

The Health Department had initially claimed that it had been given "de-identified expired" samples by the Red Cross, but the Red Cross said this was not true.

The department then retracted its earlier statement and conceded that Division of Analytical Laboratories officials had collected blood from about 500 donors at Red Cross premises in 1989.

The blood was used to establish blood typing and DNA mapping when DNA profiling systems were being established in NSW. One statistical database was compiled in 1989, and a second about 1995, using the same blood. Both databases have been cited in criminal court cases, including that of the convicted backpacker killer Ivan Milat. The department said they were no longer being used, but conceded they still existed.

The issue of whether the donors gave informed consent for the compiling of the databases is understood to be central to Mr Puplick's inquiries.

The Red Cross said that all of the donors whose blood was collected at its centres had given verbal consent.

The department at first said that only "the majority" gave consent, but a spokesman, Wayne Geddes, said later that he believed that all of the donors gave verbal consent.

Mr Puplick said it appeared "unclear what nature of consent" was obtained. No consent forms would appear to have been prepared or signed.

The Red Cross told the Herald that departmental staff discussed with potential donors the intended use of the samples. If the donor consented, blood was gathered in a separate test tube was not bar-coded or marked with any identification, and no record of the donor was kept.

The blood samples were used only to establish statistical DNA information about general population trends and were never placed on or used in connection with any database of convicted offenders or compared with crime scene samples.

Michael Strutt, a spokesman for the prisoners' rights group Justice Action, said there appeared to be no NSW legislation to ensure anonymity of the samples or to stop extracted DNA data being sold to companies.

"The NSW Health Department is unlikely to enjoy the level of trust among blood donors that the Red Cross has.

"In Tonga, Iceland and Estonia the DNA of citizens has been sold by their governments to biotech companies."

The Greens Upper House MP, Lee Rhiannon, said: "The Greens are asking the Health Department to come clean and help protect the role and reputation of the Red Cross."


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1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:27 PM PST by dead
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To: dead
The Board stole more than $480 million dollars from donors,
sold the donated blood back to hospitals (and burnt the rest to keep the price high),
and no doubt sold the DNA provided by donors if the above is true.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

Unbelievable.

2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:38 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis
I'm sure they didn't just give it away. They have lifestyles to maintain.
3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:38 PM PST by dead
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To: dead; Deb; *Bloodhounds; Wallaby; T'wit; BigM; Acorn; Budge; Great Dane; CholeraJoe; adanaC...
I'm sure OUR Red Cross would never do something so underhanded.

LIDDY DOLE'S RED CROSS RUNS AMOK

BLOOD TRAIL: THE BLOOD BROKERS PART 1 -- HOW BLOOD, THE 'GIFT OF LIFE,' BECAME A BILLION-DOLLAR BUSINESS Source: PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER Published: September 24, 1989 Author: Gilbert M. Gaul Posted on 07/12/1999 19:45:35 PDT by Wallaby (348)

BLOOD TRAIL: THE BLOOD BROKERS PART 2 - THE LOOSE WAY THE FDA REGULATES BLOOD INDUSTRY Source: PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER Published: September 25, 1989 Author: Gilbert M. Gaul Posted on 07/12/1999 20:45:42 PDT by Wallaby (347)

BLOOD TRAIL: THE BLOOD BROKERS PART 3 -- FEAR OF AIDS SPURS CHANGE Source: PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER Published: TUESDAY September 26, 1989 Author: Gilbert M. Gaul Posted on 07/12/1999 21:00:40 PDT by Wallaby (346)

BLOOD TRAIL: THE BLOOD BROKERS PART 4 -- RED CROSS: FROM DISASTER RELIEF TO BLOOD Source: PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER Published: WEDNESDAY September 27, 1989 Author: Gilbert M. Gaul Posted on 07/12/1999 21:44:11 PDT by Wallaby (345)

BLOOD TRAIL: BLOOD BROKERS, PART 5, LAST IN SERIES -- AMERICA: THE OPEC OF THE GLOBAL PLASMA Source: PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER Published: September 28, 1989 Author: Gilbert M. Gaul Posted on 07/12/1999 22:14:30 PDT by Wallaby (344)

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4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:40 PM PST by Askel5
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To: dead
TOTALLY CORRUPT organization.
5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:40 PM PST by veronica
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To: dead
but the Herald was threatened with a Supreme Court injunction by the Australian Red Cross Blood Service after it asked how the blood was obtained.
Could someone explain how the .au government works? It looks like the newspaper wanted to find out some info and the AuRCBS protested to the supreme court? Huh?
6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by lelio
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To: dead
The Red Cross has always been a totally corrupt money grabbing operation.

A friend of mine that was flying forest service helicopters in forest fires in the 60s was charged a dollar for a stale donut and a cup of coffee by the Red Cross who set up their "services" at the refueling, water loading, and rest area which was a lot of money back then.

7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by dalereed
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To: Askel5
How do you like that "verbal consent" claim! Unbelievable.

Verbal agreements stopped being valid in about 1570.

8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:41 PM PST by dead
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bump
9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:48 PM PST by toenail
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To: dead
BUMP
10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:48 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: dead
I'm with you on this one Dead. What a crock!
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:52 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: dead
Tell the Red "Double" Cross how you feel about them.
13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:54 PM PST by thefactor
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To: DoughtyOne
Finally! Some agreement! 8-)
14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:55 PM PST by dead
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To: dead
Har! Hey, I don't hold grudges. Glad to agree with you whenever possible. Have a good one.
16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:57 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Ooops! Wait till you read what I just wrote to you on another thread!

Great thing about FR, you can be civil on one thread, while lobbing bombs at each other on another.

17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:06 PM PST by dead
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To: dead
DNA is a private matter, but if there is money to be made........ privacy goes out the window.
18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:06 PM PST by Great Dane
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To: lelio
Could someone explain how the .au government works?

Not I, but I hope somebody can answer your question.

19 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:07 PM PST by dead
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To: dead
That's alright. You feel strongly about your position and so do I. I appreciate your oops and will offer up my own. I responded to your comments, but I tried to do so in a reasoned manner. Have a good one...
20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:17:09 PM PST by DoughtyOne
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