"Pacifism would do to nations what gun control does to individuals: leave them helpless before masked men with dark intentions. A.J. Armitage
What part of "You're either with us, or you're with the terrorists" don't you turn the other cheek, limp wristed, jellyfish understand? We had 8 long years of ineffective retaliation against this sort of terrorism, and now it has come home to roost. Face it - your pacifism is DEADLY. Our enemy only understands violence - he doesn't share your nice comfortable value/morality set. Sheesh. There's more of you leftists here today than usual.
No pacifist here. But to really WIN this war we need chessplayers not just cluster bombs. This is not a simple schoolyard brawl. A lot hinges on how we play the game - like our future security for example. Thoughtful discussion from those who know what they are talking about and know the enemy all too well is helpful in winning this must-win war.(I don't know that I would put Zinn in that catagory but it never hurts to pay attention to another point of view). Insults and simple-minded parroting of political soundbites gets none us anywhere.