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To: ArGee
How convenient for you to just dismiss my post. Don't refute it. Don't support your own thoughts, just say my post is of no concern to you, and then admit to not reading it! lol I outlined just why Jesus didn't fulfill the prophecies and you pretend they are not there!

But a waste of time? No, I don't consider my post a waste of time. Others may not have such thick scales over their eyes.... and some people may show their love of God by seeking the truth, no matter where that truth takes them.

Nowhere does the Jewish Bible or Prophets say that the Messiah would be a god or God-like. The very idea that God would take on human form is repulsive to Jews because it contradicts the concept of God as being above and beyond the limitations of the human body and situation.

Judaism believes that God is eternal, above and beyond time. God cannot be born, He cannot die, He cannot suffer, He can not "become flesh," nor can He be divided into sections ("Father, Son, and Holy Ghost"). These are pagan notions. Certainly no "God" or "Son of God" could have called out on the cross, as Jesus is supposed to have said, "My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?" After all if Jesus was God, then he abandoned himself??? Makes no sense.

How difficult would it be for a God to live according the Law? It would not be difficult at all. But, how difficult is it for a 'man' to live according to the Law? Much harder; man has to try, and work at it.


I hope this post is SHORT enough for you!

248 posted on 11/09/2001 9:10:09 AM PST by ET(end tyranny)
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Thank you for writing a post that was readable. I do not mind debating theology, but the kind of post you wrote before is for sitting down and discussing over coffee or tea, face to face, with Scriptures and concordances and TWOT and so forth. I am not the sort of person who can have that kind of discussion on a Web forum. I'm glad it amuses you. I hope you can forgive my weakness.

Now, to this post that is of a length I can handle, you said:

God cannot

My faith is too big to ever utter that phrase.

You are right to say that the Scriptures did not claim that Messiah would be Messiah-el. That's why Yeshua praised Simon for that declaration. He said, "Man did not reveal this to you, but the Spirit of G-d." The twelve did not even realize it because it was a thing never heard of before. He was standing before them, but they were not able to understand until He opened their eyes after He was raised by Ha Shem from the dead. It was a totally new thing, but when you know the thing you can then go back and read Scripture again and understand that G-d did exactly what He promised He would do. I'm sure the people of G-d did not understand what G-d was telling Habakkuk about using an evil kingdom to accomplish His purposes until after the Diaspora. That is the way G-d's prophecy often works.

You say that the Trinity does not make sense. I agree from my human perspective. But it makes even less sense to me to suggest that, as you say, God cannot. That phrase is beyond my comprehension. I cannot fathom it.

By the way, if you are a Jew (and you write like one - a compliment not an insult) you should have recognized the reference Yeshua made from the cross when He said, "Eli, Eli, lamach sabcthani" Perhaps the idea that G-d could abandon Himself doesn't make sense to you, but how about His reference to the Scripture that predicted the Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced...

while hanging there with his hands and feet pierced...

a form of capital punishment that the Jews did not ever use.


249 posted on 11/09/2001 9:23:46 AM PST by ArGee
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