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To: The Raven
....we need to put a few checks & balances in their governments.

Yes. Perhaps we could put the same checks and balances that were put into the German Constitution after WW I. The German King (Kaiser) fled Germany at the end of WW I and the Wiemar Republic was formed as the German Government. It was called the Wiemar Republic because it was a republic similar to ours. The German constitution was written in the city of Wiemar. It was a Republican form of government with all the checks and balances to prevent any portion of government from attaining the power once held by the King. Hitler used the stalemate created by the checks and balances to come to power in 1933.

Hitler used the checks and balances as an excuse for the depression. He said was 1930's depression was caused by the form of government defined in the German Constitution. He said its freedoms allowed rich Jews to keep the people unemployed. Unemployment was high enough that the people bought it. They made him Fuhrer and let him kill 6 million Jews.

The German People over threw a Republican form of government to put in a dictatorship. The constitution that was done in Weimar to make a great nation in the wake of WWI was worthless when the people wanted it gone. All it took was bad times. By 1938 the German-American Bund was an organization with a large membership in the USA. It advocated teh overthrow of our constitution and the selection of an Amercian Fuhrer. It had a nation wide weekly broadcast originating in Detroit that was listened to by millions. It had as big an audience as Rush.

In all nations the people in fact rule. NO NATION can exist with out the consent of the governed. The Russian Czar's Kingdom fell to Lenin and Communism. All the power of a king could not prevent a communist government when the people wanted it. And all the power of the Soviet Union could not pervent the people from toppling it when they wanted the Soviet Union gone a decade ago.

Goverments and people who want to run governments tell you that constitutions rule. They do not. People ... ordinary people choose the government. We can not understand why an educated people would want a Hitler over a constitutional republic.. but they did.

People try to tell us our government is a piece of paper. As long as our people support what is in our Constitution it will prevail. When the don't it will not prevail.

The U.S. constitution says what the U.S. Judges says it says. And the Judges say what the people want them to say. People rule. Not paper.


42 posted on 11/03/2001 3:38:56 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
bump for the Constitution
44 posted on 11/03/2001 3:43:18 AM PST by prognostigaator
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To: Common Tator
Amen. Nice to read you again.
45 posted on 11/03/2001 3:48:35 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Common Tator
People rule. Not paper.

One quick refutation: Dollar bills are made out of paper. :o)

48 posted on 11/03/2001 3:53:21 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Common Tator
Good point.

The Taliban is the epitome of what the Afghan people are about. Those who say the Isalms are basically good people are wrong.

IMO, The Afghans wanted what the Taliban had to offer so badly, the're willing to let these Taliban foreigners run their country. Not one single leader in the Taliban is from Afghanistan.

65 posted on 11/03/2001 4:48:30 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: Common Tator
Basic: There is no Constitution. There are only 9 political appointments that tell there is one and what it says.
112 posted on 11/03/2001 6:14:22 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Common Tator
The judges say what the politicians tell them to say, and the politicians tell the people to go to hell.
174 posted on 11/03/2001 8:47:16 PM PST by gunshy
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