Gun Control After September 11

FOXNEWS ^ | Friday, November 2, 2001 | Glenn Harlan Reynolds

[Scalia Rules]

"I think all women oughta carry a cell phone and a three-fifty-seven. Loaded." So declares a woman interviewed by The New Republic's Michelle Cottle.

That statement seems to sum up the post-Sept. 11 attitude toward gun control. Things were already tough for the gun-control movement. Convinced that Al Gore's strong anti-gun stance had cost the Democratic Party the 2000 election, the Democratic Leadership Council had already called for a softer line on gun control. Bill Clinton and former White House spokesman Joe Lockhart had pronounced Gore's stance a mistake. Meanwhile, product-liability suits brought against gun manufacturers were failing miserably in courts from New York to California.

[Rightwing Canuck]

"I think all women oughta carry a cell phone and a three-fifty-seven. Loaded." So declares a woman interviewed by The New Republic's Michelle Cottle

Tsk, tsk. I suggest a Colt .45. If she's gonna shoot 'em, might as well send his ass across the street.

[Scalia Rules]

.45's are B.S.

"One shot stopping power" is B.S. To paraphrase Twain, the safest place to be when one's pointed at you is directly in front of it.

9mm is the way to go. Even the US Army thinks so.

[AStack75]

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[NonZeroSum]

Professor Reynolds has an excellent and entertaining weblog, that should be a regular visit by enlightened Freepers.

[Scalia Rules]

Thanks. I might have had mistaken it for a pornography site instead.

[Rightwing Canuck]

Hehe ok, I was just kidding :) When I read that line I remember the time I asked my dad what would happen if someone was shot point-blank with a .45, and he said his ass would be across the street. He hardly ever says something like that so it stuck with me.

I actually know very little about firearms, though I most definately support the right to own them. I'm more of a sword man myself.

[Scalia Rules]

Prof. Reynolds is THE Man on the Second Amendment. I am a lawyer myself (actually, I get sworn in to the Illinois bar next Thursday) , but I don't hold it against Reynolds that he's a Yale Law alum.

[Timesink]

Convinced that Al Gore's strong anti-gun stance had cost the Democratic Party the 2000 election...

They're right to be convinced. Forty-seven percent of the people that voted in November 2000 were gun owners, and I doubt very many of them chose Gore.

[spokeshave]

Never bring a sword to a gunfight....spokeshave

[Rightwing Canuck]

Never bring a sword to a gunfight....

What if it's really shiny?

;)

[Scalia Rules]

Swords certainly have a more noble lineage. In the days of yore, an apprentice warrior would train for years, ever seeking to develop a relationship with his steel. But then firearms came along, and any farm boy with a good eye and steady finger could drop you from 100 yards out.

I am a firearms enthusiast, myself, but I think I'd concede that the decline of the sword, and the attendant advent of firearms did have a decivilizing effect on society.

[Rightwing Canuck]

I agree. The knightly ideal took a nose dive once the cold steel of the sword was taken out of the picture.

[Green Knight]

LOL! I like swords, to, but chances are you're not gonna have a sword handy to defend yourself if you get mugged.

It is here that things seem to have changed the most. Americans have learned that being harmless does not guarantee that they will not be harmed: in fact, it seems that terrorists (like ordinary criminals) actually prefer victims who cannot strike back.

People are only figuring this out, now?

Anyway, the writer of the article brings up a lot of good points. I also liked the part about how the gun control crowd hate American manliness. In other words, they want people to be sheep. Victims. They're victims, themselves, and can't stand it when others show the strength of character that they themselves don't possess. Seeing that strength in others shames them. And rather than trying to better themselves, they seek to tear down others to their level.

[GeronL]

, according to Michael Barone, "It will now be very hard–I would say impossible–for any intellectually honest judge to rule that the Second Amendment means nothing."

Its always been a dishonest arguement.

[GeronL]

indeed, though it is little publicized, much of the gun-control movement’s financial and institutional support comes from non-evangelical Protestant denominations

No doubt members of the National Council of Churches.... if I only had the cash to create a real church!

[JeepInMazar]

I just took my 14 year old son to the NRA range tonight to shoot his new Ruger 22. Celebrate freedom!

[Dogbert41]

Twain was talking about the infamous "pepperbox" pistol, the black powder cap and ball pistol that had multiple barrels sticking out front, because they often exploded. Had nothing to do with the caliber.

The venerable .45 round is a MUCH better defensive round over the 9mm. True, our military went to the 9mm, but sadly it was not due to any military trials against the .45 whatsoever! In fact, the 9mm was around when we first chose the Colt .45 1911. Nothing in a pistol cartridge for a semi-auto at that time tested as well against live or dead flesh as the .45 round.

Why did we go to 9mm? Because we have women in the military now to consider I recon. Perhaps they felt the .45 was too much gun? Why do the FBI HRT carry the Springfield 1911 in .45? Why do our Special Forces carry H&Ks USPs in .45? There are plenty of great firearms out there in 9mm... -Must be their need for killing quickly.

I have nothing against the 9mm, and have owned several. But if I'm going into a fight, it's with a .45, and that's if I can't carry a rifle.

[jonascord]

The doggies went for the 9mm because they can't shoot worth diddly, and 15 rounds increases the chances of hitting Something, rather than 7 rounds and the RECOIL!, Heavens to Murgatroyd!

Note, if you will, that when cops have the chance to choose and are not hamstrung by PC minded town councils, they prefer John Browning's best. Even the fibbies have gone back to the .45 as a carry piece.

I can personally attest that I watched a Spook, (the Agency kind) put a 30-some round magazine from a 9mm Swedish K into a goober, and wound up caving the guy's head in with the pistol grip and a ballbat swing.

The "spray and pray" method is only good in Hollyweird. Remember, they also invented the sideways 'gansta' hold, which is the best way to tell who is going to win a gunfight.