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The Real Murderers: Atheism or Christianity?
It Stands to Reason ^ | Gregory Koukl

Posted on 11/01/2001 5:38:53 AM PST by Khepera

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To: tpaine
Christians (According to the Bible) should not be intolerant of men but of Ideas and actions associated with those ideas. I do not kill Homosexuals but I hate the Idea of same sex relations. I do not kill Liberals I just hate their Ideas. Both these kinds of people will not have everlasting life unless they repent and actually change what they think and do. (They must also accept Jesus Christ as Lord) These people will have no chance to live forever but I do have that chance. Christ never taught that it is good to kill Sinners except in self defense. Thou shall not commit murder. Thats what Christians are supposed to be about.
21 posted on 11/01/2001 7:07:20 AM PST by Khepera
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To: kpp_kpp
more have been killed in the last 100 years in the name of athiesm

Few people have been killed "in the name of atheism." Millions were killed in the name of Communism. Hundreds of thousands were killed in the name of Christ.

In all cases, the killing was by fanatics. They each suffer their own particular delusions, but they are all fanatics.

23 posted on 11/01/2001 8:13:20 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: oyez
Thank you. It amazes me how some people assume the some total of scientific knowledge and rational thought is the same now as it was 700 years ago. How can the Black Plague be rationalized before the people had any knowledge of microbiology?
24 posted on 11/01/2001 8:14:14 AM PST by oyez
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To: Khepera
Yet you use words like "they must accept Jesus", - words have meaning. 'Must' is a word used by the intolerant, imo.
28 posted on 11/01/2001 8:16:36 AM PST by tpaine
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To: allend
ITA and a BUMP. But, since atheists don't live by God's Commandments--it makes sense that they are real murderers who don't believe they've sinned.
They will ultimately believe in God though--they're in for a helluva time--soon.
29 posted on 11/01/2001 8:21:40 AM PST by Brynna77
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To: Dimensio
The Bolshevik persecution of the Russian Orthodox Church was carried out explicitly in the name of promoting atheism. They certainly out-killed all persecutions by Christian confessions in absolute numbers, though I think the 30-years war was bloodier in proportional terms.
30 posted on 11/01/2001 8:23:45 AM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: The_Reader_David
The Bolshevik persecution of the Russian Orthodox Church was carried out explicitly in the name of promoting atheism. They certainly out-killed all persecutions by Christian confessions in absolute numbers, though I think the 30-years war was bloodier in proportional terms.

Really? I thought that it was about promoting and strenghtening communism, which depended on absolute obedience to the state, so they couldn't have anyone swearing alliegance to any gods that would take prescendence over the state.
31 posted on 11/01/2001 8:46:29 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: tpaine
If I say ... "you must go to the grocery store to get food to eat", ... is that being intolerant?
32 posted on 11/01/2001 8:48:26 AM PST by Quester
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To: tpaine
Yet you use words like "they must accept Jesus", - words have meaning. 'Must' is a word used by the intolerant, imo.

What is wrong with being intolerant, The war we are fighting is based on being "intolerant" of terrorist. We must all be "intolerant" of evil.

33 posted on 11/01/2001 8:48:26 AM PST by zest for life
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To: tpaine
I would like to point out that it is not a bad thing to be "intolerant". The liberals today would like for you to believe that it is bad to be Intolerant, or Bigoted, or to discriminate. If it is “Bad” to be intolerant then it is “Always” bad to be “Intolerant” then we should tolerate all things. Nothing is bad or undesirable in the land of tolerance. A bigot is someone who has a belief and will not waver from that belief. I submit that is a good thing if your belief passes all the tests of being good. Discriminating (Choosy) mothers choose Jif. I discriminate against Racists. Hey this discrimination stuff is not all bad. Your argument does not pass the test and is flawed beyond belief.
34 posted on 11/01/2001 8:49:38 AM PST by Khepera
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To: oyez
Most killing have been done in the name of political power and economics.

Definately. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely, be the power religious or secular. Neither side has clean hands. To add up the bodies on each side simply detracts from the real enemy...uncontrolled and unchecked power.
35 posted on 11/01/2001 8:50:55 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: Quester
Look at context.

Sorry, but I don't have the patience to spell out every detail of everything I write here.

36 posted on 11/01/2001 8:57:05 AM PST by tpaine
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To: allend
We can win and do all the time. We are planters of seeds. Some grow and some do not. If someone replies to us in a negative manner then that need not be a loss. You may choose to reply or not but if you reply try to give an honest and thoughtful answer. Do not resort to baking statements that insult and belittle if possible. I know its hard not to just call them idiots because I am tempted greatly and have fallen on numerous occasions. I am a sinner and try as I might I sin occasionally but being a Christian means I should strive for a better life and confess when I have failed. Dear Lord Jesus Sovereign son of man please Thank you for taking my sins and dying, only to rise up and live and assuring everlasting life. Please forgive me for the wrongs I have committed and help guide me as I defend the faith. Amen
37 posted on 11/01/2001 9:01:17 AM PST by Khepera
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To: zest for life
You are either begging the guestion, or can't understand basic english.

'Intolerance' is evil, imho, no matter who practices it.

38 posted on 11/01/2001 9:04:32 AM PST by tpaine
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To: LordOfTheWasteland
Religion is not the root of all conflict from time immemorial. Man is, and always has been, the problem. The God of the Bible, the one true god, has always been the way, the truth, and the life for ever and ever. Amen
39 posted on 11/01/2001 9:04:40 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Khepera
See #38.
40 posted on 11/01/2001 9:06:01 AM PST by tpaine
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