Orthodox AIDS magazine says NO heterosexual aids

POZ Magazine - Post on ARC Site ^ | October 2001

[apackof2]

What about AIDS in Africa? Is it all from homosexual behavior?

NO, some of it was from bi-sexual behavior

[Citizen of the Savage Nation]

So Sex With The Proper Stranger is like playing Russian Roulette with a 33 chamber revolver?

It would be if 1) the stranger did, in fact, have AIDS, and 2) you are a woman. Both of these must be true for your analogy to work. The title was not misleading.

[walden]

"It is easy to get funding for AIDS but almost impossible to get it for the old epidemic diseases that have ravaged Africa for centuries."

True. When was the last time you heard of a Hollywood benefit to raise funds to eliminate dysentery?

[Yaelle]

I take it that heterosexual AIDS is not a myth, but MEN getting it from women is a myth. It is still horrible that women are getting it from their partners, however the men contracted it. After all, in Africa women are getting it and passing it to their babies. So it's still a scourge in the hetero populations too.

[Chemnitz]

Whatever. Intermediate hosts living, loving, crapping, eating and being eaten. Not a healthy way to live.

[porgygirl]

Old news ?

If the thought of being infected by the AIDS virus by a single act [vaginal sex with an infected partner] that has a 7 in 10,000 [.07%] , and a 7 in 5,000,000 for a single heterosexual act [status unknown ] is scary, imagine being an MSM [men who have sex with men], and being faced by an epidemic illness that is 100% fatal, and, half of all 18 year olds in your classification will be infected before they reach age 30, and, a 1 in 4 chance of transmission for unprotected sex with an known infected partner, and a 1 in 120 chance for unprotected sex with an unknown status partner.

Looking at those risk numbers, anyone who engages in the behavior, can in no way be absolved from purposeful transmission of the virus.

Source:

Homosexuality and the politics of truth.

Dr. Jeffrey Satinover.

pp 56 -58 June 1990

Old news !

[rolling_stone]

I read his stuff and it is very interesting, puts AIDS/HIV in a different light...the drug connection... and HIV in Africa is different...worth reading IMO..

[Michael Barnes]

I hope you all are sitting down at your 'puters. I knew a woman who did her thesis on AIDS. Her conclusion; AIDS was introduced to our planet by NASA going to the moon, and furthermore, it is why we have not gone back to the moon (because other virus' are there). Now, I don't buy into it, but, nonetheless, she did receive top marks for her work and it makes for interesting conversation, granted the tin foil is firmly in place. The only reason it is interesting is it is hard to refute the theory.
Please resume normal posting...

[George W. Bush]

Hmmm... So heterosexual AIDS is largely a myth? Next thing, people will start questioning the AIDS figures from Africa and suggesting they're fraudulent too. </sarcasm>

[Richard Kimball]

Aids can also be transmitted through needle-sticks, and men can give it to women. In Africa, the public "health" system may be largely to blame. When giving vaccinations, the common practice for years was to line people up, and use the same needle until it was too blunt to pierce the skin. Sometimes they would put a bowl of bleach on a table, and clean the needle in that. Other times, they would simply fill the syringe with multiple doses, and continue to dose people until the syringe was empty.

Brian's point about loosening the definition of aids is also correct. In most instances, the person who contracts aids already has a decreased immune system because of other diseases. In the US, homosexual males frequently eat each other's feces, and "gay bowel syndrome" was well-known throughout San Francisco prior to the aids outbreak. In Africa, frequently people bathe, urinate, crap, and drink within yards of each other in lakes and rivers. In almost all cases of "heterosexual" aids, you'll find other factors, such as drug abuse, hemophilia, bisexuality, or other "dirty" sexual techniques (those which transmit feces, etc, from one person to another.)

[conway]

Look, homo's like to use the back door so they leave their same sex partner and how do you think they prefer to do it to their women patners. Sodomites are the scourge of the earth.

[rightofrush]

What about AIDS in Africa? Is it all from homosexual behavior?

Africa has many endemic diseases that result in open sores - sores that provide the means for "transmission of bodily fluids".

[InterceptPoint]

The article also includes the odd contention that men get AIDS from women in Africa and other developing nations, but they do not get AIDS from women in the developed worlds a difference that has not been adequately explained.

Yes that is an interesting question isn't it?

The answer is actually quite simple. Men get AIDS from women in Africa becuse, if they didn't, then the world wouldn't be sending them all that money. You have to explain the AIDS "pandemic" somehow and that is all they have left. It is a fraud here and it is the same fraud in Africa. It is not about AIDS it is about money. People in Africa die from the same diseases they always have. We just call it AIDS now becuase it is such a money maker.

Junk science is junk science. No scientist worth a dime could fail to recognize that if AIDS isn't contagious between males and females in the U.S. then it is not going to be contageous between males and females in Africa. This is not Rocket Science, it is just common sense.

If HIV was really the virus that causes AIDS would any of the above make sense? Why wouldn't an HIV positive women pass the virus to a man? The answer is she could but, since HIV doen't cause AIDS, nothihg happens. You can explain everything we now know about AIDS with the simple postulate: HIV doesn't cause AIDS. That explains everything you will read about AIDS, the epidemic that never happened.

[Unbeliever]

What about AIDS in Africa? Is it all from homosexual behavior?
If it is, seems like there's an awful lot of homosexuals there.

According to a documentary I saw a few years ago, the reason for the high hetrosexual a.i.d.s. transmission rate is because in Africa men frequently engage in anal intercourse with women as a form of birth control because "the pill" and condoms are too expensive for them.

[Cinnamon Girl]

Everyone in the "AIDS" business knew that Magic didn't get AIDS from heterosexual sex. But who was going to come out and say that?

[SlickWillard]

What about AIDS in Africa? Is it all from homosexual behavior? If it is, seems like there's an awful lot of homosexuals there.

Men who abstain from homosexual intercourse are rare, both in our era, and throughout history. This abstinence is primarily associated with Christianity, but homosexual intercourse is, nevertheless, de rigueur in many ostensibly Christian societies, such as Brazil.

Homosexual intercourse is prevalent in the Muslim world (believe it or not), commonplace in the Hindu world, and rampant on the Dark Continent.

[TheMole]

Good post Dave. I'm one of the long-time AIDS skeptics, so I won't repeat myself, but I like the skeptical attitude around here. Just one piece of info for you in case you didn't already know - "POZ journalist Patrick Califia" was named Patricia Califia by her parents, and wrote a series of lesbian pornographic stories and novels as Pat Califia. Her stuff tended to S&M and "water sports", and a couple of years ago she began the series of surgeries and hormone treatments known as "sex change treatment". This is of course utter nonsense as no one's sex can be changed, but I've already flogged that horse enough. But hey, this is feel-good stuff. Now that AIDS is losing steam, maybe some of those millions can be redirected into something more useful. Cheers.

[David Lane]

You make a good point. Figures for the 29 'AIDS' disease before AIDS are hard to come by. In the few cases where they exist they show GREATER mortalities BEFORE aids then since it.

In the case of hemophilia the decrease has been 67% despite the fact that 90% of hemophiliacs are supposed to be HIV positive.

Make HIV sound like a treatment for the condition!