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To: Jolly Rodgers
Do you not understand we are at war. The thousands that are already dead from this conflict will be nothing compared to what will happen if we continue as before. I'm not saying I like the idea of losing protected rights but before you criticise the actions taken, have an answer to the problem. How would you stop the terrorist?
89 posted on 10/27/2001 1:18:28 PM PDT by kempo
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To: kempo
Do you not understand we are at war. The thousands that are already dead from this conflict will be nothing compared to what will happen if we continue as before. I'm not saying I like the idea of losing protected rights but before you criticise the actions taken, have an answer to the problem. How would you stop the terrorist?

First of all, our own government weighed the situation and by their own voice declared that this situation does not warrant invoking a declaration of war. You and I might like to think otherwise, but they made it clear that in the government's eyes, this is NOT a war.

Secondly, there has been post after post recommending actions that could be taken that would violate the rights of no person. Even if it is a declared war, that is no justification for violating rights.

94 posted on 10/27/2001 1:22:49 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: kempo
"How would you stop the terrorist?"

You are beating a dead horse. You know, and so do the rest of us, that there is no stopping a terrorist who is willing to die for his cause. And that is exactly why this new law is dead wrong. It will not stop anything either. But the net result is that our freedoms have just been substantially eroded for a net gain of zero.

Your argument comes from a position of ignorance, and a lack of perspective about recent history.

BTW, there is only one solution for terrorists. Kill them in place. Everytime, all of the time. And don't even start with 'We don't know who they are.'

99 posted on 10/27/2001 1:25:04 PM PDT by wcbtinman
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To: kempo
Consider Amendment III of the constitution:

No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

There was a time in this country when it was understood that the government was to be a respecter of individual rights -- even in time of war.

101 posted on 10/27/2001 1:27:17 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: kempo; Jolly Rodgers
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To: Jolly Rodgers
"Do you not understand we are at war..."
"...I'm not saying I like the idea of losing protected rights
but before you criticise the actions taken,
have an answer to the problem.
How would you stop the terrorist?
# 89 by kempo

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I would stop the terrorist by inforcing existing laws.

Why does every new violation of law
require new laws to handle it?

We already have laws to handle terrorism.
It was done before, with no violation of our rights.

You do not understand, kempo.
We are not at war.

121 posted on 10/27/2001 2:21:44 PM PDT by exodus
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To: kempo
Do you not understand we are at war. The thousands that are already dead from this conflict will be nothing compared to what will happen if we continue as before. I'm not saying I like the idea of losing protected rights but before you criticise the actions taken, have an answer to the problem. How would you stop the terrorist?

We lost FReepers in the attack on 9/11...and I'll bet those noble, selfless people would have plenty to say about the proposed notion that their lives were more important than their freedoms.

BTW...if President Gore were in office proposing this, how would you react?

170 posted on 10/27/2001 5:40:20 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: kempo
YOU NEED TO WATCH THIS:JIHAD IN AMERICA - ONLINE VIDEO
214 posted on 10/27/2001 7:00:21 PM PDT by freedomnews
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To: kempo
. I'm not saying I like the idea of losing protected rights but before you criticise the actions taken, have an answer to the problem. How would you stop the terrorist?

It may not be PC to say so but all the terrorists have the same MO. They were all Arab Muslims. That much we know.

What would I do?

Deport all non citizen Arab Muslims and if necessary all Muslims and all Arabs. Those who remain would undergo an extensive background check. I would close the borders. No more Muslims allowed in.

But before I did all that I would make a formal declaration of war so that such actions on my part were legal.

219 posted on 10/27/2001 7:06:50 PM PDT by KDD
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