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To: LiberteeBell
Section. 4. Article. IV: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened)against domestic Violence.

Now look at amendment to Article V. No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, ,nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

Tell me...what would you ask our government to do at this time of public danger with terrorism not only having killed 6000 people but unknown future attacks? Give me solutions. Give me answers. Tell me how much is freedom is you aren't safe and secure? How much freedom do you have if your family, neighbors, or fellow citizens are dead because the government didn't act in a time of public danger. Where will be your voice and life in the solution? Or is it only okay for the government to act if it doesn't effect you whatsoever. Is it only politically correct to gripe at the government when they act and again when they don't act once it touches your doorstep?

332 posted on 10/28/2001 12:49:26 PM PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc
And to all who keep referring to Ben Franklin and essential liberty...here is essential liberty all rolled into one....

Quote by Father Dennis Edward O'Brien Sergeant, USMC "It is the Soldier, not the Reporter who has given us the freedom of press. It is the soldier, not the Poet who has given us the freedom of speech. It is the Soldier, not the Campus Organizer who has given us the freedom to demonstrate. It is the Soldier who salutes the Flag, who serves beneath the Flag, and whose coffin is draped by the Flag, who allows the Protester to burn the Flag." Submitted by Matt Dahlin, USAF

333 posted on 10/28/2001 12:55:36 PM PST by nancetc
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To: nancetc
Tell me...what would you ask our government to do at this time of public danger with terrorism not only having killed 6000 people but unknown future attacks? Give me solutions. Give me answers.

We should first tighten up our borders. For heavens sake, we're letting in Syrians to take flight training!The PC junk would have to go. We should stop bending over backwards to not offend followers of Islam. They have announced "Death to America"; I think they have proven they mean it. We should cancel visas of students and all foreign nationals here from hostile nations and even fence-sitting nations such as Saudi Arabia (how many of the hijackers were Saudis??). We should deport every illegal alien we could track down regardless of their nationality. Would this completely stop terrorism? Probably not, but I'd bet it would go a long way disrupting existing cells and we would likely gain some valuable intelligence along the way.

Tell me how much is freedom is you aren't safe and secure? How much freedom do you have if your family, neighbors, or fellow citizens are dead because the government didn't act in a time of public danger.

There is no guarantee of safety and security. And, I submit that it is impossible to achieve any level of safety and security without first having freedom. The 9-11 horror was a result of gov't not enforcing existing laws and massive intelligence failure.

Where will be your voice and life in the solution? Or is it only okay for the government to act if it doesn't effect you whatsoever.

I'd like to keep this great country; it's not a personal thing. Is it only politically correct to gripe at the government when they act and again when they don't act once it touches your doorstep?

I don't want a nanny state. I don't expect the government to protect me personally. And frankly, this terrorism has touched my doorstep; it touched America.

342 posted on 10/28/2001 4:32:45 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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To: nancetc
Tell me...what would you ask our government to do at this time of public danger with terrorism not only having killed 6000 people but unknown future attacks? Give me solutions. Give me answers.

We should first tighten up our borders. For heavens sake, we're letting in Syrians to take flight training!The PC junk would have to go. We should stop bending over backwards to not offend followers of Islam. They have announced "Death to America"; I think they have proven they mean it. We should cancel visas of students and all foreign nationals here from hostile nations and even fence-sitting nations such as Saudi Arabia (how many of the hijackers were Saudis??). We should deport every illegal alien we could track down regardless of their nationality. Would this completely stop terrorism? Probably not, but I'd bet it would go a long way disrupting existing cells and we would likely gain some valuable intelligence along the way.

Tell me how much is freedom is you aren't safe and secure? How much freedom do you have if your family, neighbors, or fellow citizens are dead because the government didn't act in a time of public danger.

There is no guarantee of safety and security. And, I submit that it is impossible to achieve any level of safety and security without first having freedom. The 9-11 horror was a result of gov't not enforcing existing laws and a massive intelligence failure.

Where will be your voice and life in the solution? Or is it only okay for the government to act if it doesn't effect you whatsoever.

I'd like to keep this great country; it's not a personal thing.

Is it only politically correct to gripe at the government when they act and again when they don't act once it touches your doorstep?

I don't want a nanny state. I don't expect the government to protect me personally. This terrorism has touched all of our doorsteps, they killed some 5000+ of our fellow citizens and would like to kill us all.

Instead of initiating some common sense measures under existing law, our gov't has passed a new law that I believe is unconstutional.

343 posted on 10/28/2001 4:41:44 PM PST by LiberteeBell
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