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The Culpability of William Jefferson Clinton
American Veterans ^ | October 27, 2001 | Shenandoah

Posted on 10/27/2001 4:50:16 AM PDT by Shenandoah

The horrific attack on our WTC might have been foiled if our Intelligence Agencies had had the resources to gather intelligence. It is because of Bill Clinton and his Leftist policies that they didn't. It is important that this fact be documented for the historical record.

I have put together a section on my "American Veterans" site in which I have been gathering articles and information pertaining to Clinton's role in handcuffing our intelligence and demoralizing our military.

If anyone knows of further articles or information that could be added to this site, please contact me. I am particularly interested in writings and speeches by Senator James Inhofe. Keep in mind that this is not an all things Clinton site, but a site dedicated to Clinton's failure to protect America.

THE CULPABILITY OF WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON


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To: Shenandoah
Great site! And let us not forget about the pardons extended to the PR terrorists.
21 posted on 10/27/2001 7:08:26 AM PDT by O6ret
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To: Shenandoah
This is an outstanding site! I have begun a similar web-site myself. Only a section of it refers to Bill Clinton.
I got similar stuff on the libs in general, etc. Great Job on yours!
22 posted on 10/27/2001 7:15:34 AM PDT by Curly007
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To: Shenandoah
But the policies set up to monitor Hussein, to carry out ongoing weapons inspections, were not enforced by Clinton.

Or by either Bush.

23 posted on 10/27/2001 7:34:09 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic
[Reagan helped put the Taliban in place and Bush Sr. helped run the CIA into the ground and left Saddam standing at the end of the Gulf War. If you want to blame Clinton you'd better face up to the fact that this is not solely of his making. . . . . . . But the bottom line remains that our enemy is not our politicians no matter how many mistakes they've made. The enemy is clearly defined.]

The 'Taliban' as we know it, did not exist when Reagan was President; they were the Afghan rebels, defending their country against the Russians. We helped the Muslims then and in Somalia and in Chechnyia (sp) as well; so we were to late smart on that one perhaps.

It was Jimmy Carter than ran the CIA not into the ground, just out of business. . .

. . .as for Bush Sr. NOT getting Saddam; well we should know by now, what that would have entailed and who would have supported that decision.

Would be good to go back and see, when Bush SR. was trying to get Congressional approval FOR our entry into 'Gulf War'; just where all these Liberal whiners, in fact stood on that military decision, who now cry the loudest that we did not get Saddam.

The difficulties inherent should be obvious as we now ponder the grimmer realities of what it would in fact take, to get Osama. . .while we listen to Joe Biden already starting the Lib moan about our looking like 'bullies'.

No, it is not all BC's fault; but his decisons in the past eight years were all designed to serve HIM and HIS best interests. With every decision, HE won and America lost.

Yes, political mistakes are made every day; and we do not name those responsible, our 'Enemy'; but the fact is, Bill Clinton was MORE than a 'mistake'. He was a President who was willing to trade down his Country for something, someone, he considered more worthwhile.

Any man, who would do this, and certainly anyone so invested with political power on behalf of the United States that would do this, is damn well our enemy.

. . .and the crime is TREASON.

24 posted on 10/27/2001 7:42:28 AM PDT by cricket
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To: Shenandoah
YES! Magnificent effort.

Great assemblage of articles and sources.

Kudos!

25 posted on 10/27/2001 7:46:11 AM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: sakic
Reagan helped put the Taliban in place

Bit extreme to blame Reagan for the Taliban when there were no Taliban while he was president.

26 posted on 10/27/2001 7:49:28 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: Shenandoah
To be sure, George senior should have gone after Saddam Hussein and finished the job. But the reasoning back then was that it would have been too much for us to take over Iraq and there was no guarantee that a Hussein successor would have been any better. We elected to contain him and encourage rebellion. But the policies set up to monitor Hussein, to carry out ongoing weapons inspections, were not enforced by Clinton

My understanding is that the so-called "rules of engagement" filed by the US to the United Nations was to stop Iraqui advancement to the Kuwait oil fields.

This was accomplished quite quickly. At this point, it was on the US to either file another plan with the UN or announce the goal as accomplished.

I think folks are a bit too hard on Bush the Senior about Saddamn. Especially the lovely and honest Madeline Albright who said, directly upon my television and into my ears, that she wished Bush Sr had finished the job though SHE urged against the entire Gulf War to begin with.

Anyway, what was Bush Sr supposed to do back in the early ninties? Be a liar and kill Saddamn anyway? Or be an honorable American and keep his word? I mean, hey, I dislike the UN as much as anyone, but if you join up in the charade either you abide by it or don't do it to begin with.

IMHO.

28 posted on 10/27/2001 7:55:51 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: Shenandoah
x42 was the worst president in the history of this country. x42 was a traitor who put his personal goals above all else which has made him culpable for these attacks. He turned his head to warnings and direct threats. He took money for enemy governements in order to reside in the White House. His dislike for the military and all things military weakened our defence. x42 should be tried for treason and hung in the ashes of the WTC. His ugly wife, who professes the same views and lust for power should swing next to him.
29 posted on 10/27/2001 8:05:31 AM PDT by Lucky2
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To: Shenandoah
Recommend you read "Bin Laden - The Man Who Declared War on America" by Yossef Bodansky. Bodansky cites several instances where the Clinton administration failed miserably. Some points he makes are:

1) Somalia - when the US withdrew (in shame) from Somalia - this was a signal to bin Laden that the US was weak. It also raised bin Laden to hero status in the Islamic terrorists world. He had planned and "roped" in the Americans by tricking them into an ambush.

2) The timid reaction of the Clinton administration to the eruption of the "Iran-Bosnia scandal," when the Clinton White House looked the other way as Iran shipped weapons and fighters to the Muslim forces in Bosnia in violation of UN sanctions.

3) At the time that the terrorist warnings of late 1997 (FBI knew there were terrorist cells in the US - specifically Brooklyn and Jersey City - as early as May 1997) were being issued, Zawahiri, bin Laden, and the highest echelons of the leadership of Islamist international terrorism were preoccupied with on of the most significant yet least understood or known dramas of Islamist terrorism: an apparent secret deal between the Islamist terrorists and the Clinton administration that drove Egypt into de facto cooperation with the Islamist terrorism-sponsoring states against the US. Clinton was willing to tolerate the overthrow of the Mubarak government on a promise by the terrorist to stay out of Bosnia! Mubarak got information on this plan and the US has not been on good terms with Egypt since!

4) The horrendous terrorist strike in Luxor on November 17, 1997, was actually a "test" (where tourists and Westerners were slaughtered) on Clinton's credibility on keeping his deal with the terrorist. "The virtually deafening silence of the Clinton administration had to reassure Zawahiri and bin Laden, and a rejuvenated call to arms followed. On the eve of the strike in East Africa, the Islamists' belief in the validity of their "deal" with Washington would lead to a major, continuing crisis.

5) This literally threw Egypt into alliance with Sudan and other terrorist sponsored nations. This was a dramatic, swift reorientation in the strategic outlook of a major regional power - and it went virtually unnoticed in Washington, now solely preoccupied with the elusive Iraqi weapons of mass destruction.

6) "The specter of a wave of Islamist terrorism led by bin Laden, Zawahiri, and their supporters against the United States and its allies, the realignment of forces in the Middle East to the detriment of the US strategic interests, and the growing likelihood of major crisis and war in this region all emerged as the price Washington paid for its effort to prevent the violent collapse of the Dayton Accords in Bosnia-Herzegovina."

7) The improved relations between Egypt and Sudan would serve as a major factor in the decision to launch the attack on the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania.

8) A terrorist who was involved in the planning was having 2nd thoughts. He approached the US Embassy with information about the plans, but was rejected and ignored.

All these stories are in this book (I still haven't finished it), which was written in 1999. Here are some eerie quotes in retrospect after the attack of 9/11

Hussein: "But no matter how high they fly in the air, we will bring them down to earth with Jihad. We will teach them that the Arab and Islamic Nation will no submit to their will."

Regarding antrax: Another by The bulletin urged the al-Azhar ulema to "strongly confront the humiliations that its men and leaders are subjected to in the media organs (US media) like to portray them as buffoons." (Is this one reason the media is being targeted?)

Part of their overall plans is to attack America in "spectacular" terrorist attacks intermingled with low level attacks (anthrax). This is in the book as well, but I can't find the exact reference.

30 posted on 10/27/2001 8:05:33 AM PDT by Alissa
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To: RDangerfield
The attack occurred eight months into Bush's term. If Clinton is solely responsible for destroying our intelligence apparaturs and it was that obvious, why didn't Bush and his appointees address this and correct it?

I've thought about this alot. My conclusions are that the election dispute set back the planning for the incoming administration for over a month. Second, the Bush administration STILL don't have all their appointments in place (thanks to in part Jeffords) and we're still working with Clinton's POLITICALLY CORRECT appointees! And third, our economy was starting to tank (as Bush predicted in the campaign) and he made that a priority his first months in office! The government NEEDS to be purged of the Clintonites almost as desparately as the country needs to be purged of illegal aliens!

31 posted on 10/27/2001 8:12:27 AM PDT by Alissa
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To: Shenandoah
Awesome site Shen. Bookmarked and will be distributed!!!
32 posted on 10/27/2001 8:14:07 AM PDT by gohabsgo
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To: sakic
"While Clinton was a dirtbag, blaming him for the terrorist attacks is simple minded. The people who attacked are to blame." It is also simplistic to suggest that Clinton and his administration had no culpability in these attacks. Let the facts speak for themselves.

Clinton did absolutely nothing to bring down Usama Bin Ladin, even though he and his administration named Bin Ladin as enemy #1, admitted Bin Ladin was behind the attacks of our Embassy's (the first attack on American soil) and the USS Cole. Now we are told Ladin also had a hand in the first bombing of the WTC as well as other planned and carried out attacks against the US.

As president, Clinton had the responsibility, the highest responsibility, to protect the United States from enemies both foreign and domestic. Clinton did neither. Terrorists were able to kill more American's died during Clinton's watch then under any president in this countries history. Clinton had a job description and a responsibility while in office. His refusal to fufill that responsibility has caused more innocent lives to be lost.

It is also a fact that every president since Jimmy Carter has been lax at defending our citizens against terrorists, all in various ways. The fact remains, Usama Bin Ladin stated his jihad against the US in 1996, right in the middle of Clinton's presidential term. Bin Ladin attacked this country over and over again under Clinton's watch. Clinton's lack of response, along with his policies allowed Bin Ladin to continue, without reprisals, attacks against the US. While terrorism didn't originate under the Clinton administration, Usama Bin Ladin did.

Fact of the matter is, if Clinton had defended this country the WTC would be standing, the Pentagon wouldn't have a huge hole in it's side, and there wouldn't be a crater in the middle of PN. Thousands of people across the US wouldn't be mourning the loss of their loved ones. Thousands of children wouldn't be mourning the loss of one or both parents.

33 posted on 10/27/2001 8:24:49 AM PDT by Brytani
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To: DrunkenDotter
DrunkenDotter member since October 26th, 2001
 

Hello, Drunk. Welcome to Free Republic. I thought I'd visit all of the threads you've posted on and let everyone know how long you've been here and why you decided to show up here.

Hahahaha! TV as babysitter! Whatever happened to parents' taking responsibility for the influences on their children? Let's blame Ellen for the fact that we're too lazy to pay attention to information sources which mold our children's minds from early youth! It's all big, bad, lesbian Ellen's fault! -- DrunkenDotter

The preceding was in response to the fact that the Human Rights Campaign, the largest of the organizations shoving the homosexual agenda down our throats, has bought a bunch of advertising time during the Saturday morning cartoons. Apparently brainwashing our kids in the public schools isn't enough for these people.

This site quotes Oliver North as a credible source. Oliver North is a fascist who traded weapons to terrorists. Oliver North has a lot of nerve, blaming Clinton for the continued existence of terrorism in America. Any site which uses Oliver North as a source of info is so biased as not to be at all credible. I understand that everyone here hates Clinton, and may never come to terms with the fact that Americans elected him president -- twice, in fact! -- but this kind of fictional diatribe is neither sensible nor productive.

A little clarification is in order here. Oliver North was a Vietnam veteran and the history of the Vietnam War was still fresh in everyone's minds. The Hmong tribesmen were skilled jungle warriors who provided American forces with invaluable assistance during that war. But when we abandoned Vietnam, we left them to their fate. Dozens of villages were burned and thousands of Hmong men, women and children were brutally slaughtered by the North Vietnamese.

A few men of vision like Oliver North realized, when the cowardly Democrats in Congress cut off all aid to the Nicaraguan Contras, that the same nightmare was about to happen again. Daniel Ortega's Sandinista government was a ruthless Marxist dictatorship, just like the one in Hanoi where your heroine, Jane Fonda, posed for pictures on one of the antiaircraft guns used to shoot down American pilots.

That's why North and a handful of others broke the law. Sometimes you have to break the law in order to see that justice is done. Today, democracy thrives in Nicaragua no thanks to the Democrats. And I'd much rather get into trouble for supplying the Contras with weapons to defend their homes and families, than for cheating on my wife with an intern half my age and then lying about it under oath.

34 posted on 10/27/2001 9:17:17 AM PDT by Bryan
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To: Bryan
Well said Bryan. People seem to forget what treason is: it is treasonous to act in such a way as to enforce immoral laws. It cannot be considered treasonous to act according to a higher principal. Just because a law may exist does not make it "right" to follow such a law. An example: Hitler's belief that Jews should be killed, wiped out as a race. To disobey him at that time would have been considered treasonous, according to him. Those who saved the many Jews from his hands did not commit treason. They acted upon a higher principal than a fanatic's "laws."
35 posted on 10/27/2001 9:41:13 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: aristeides
Bit extreme to blame Reagan for the Taliban when there were no Taliban while he was president.

If you prefer we can call them by another name but they are the same people. In retrospect we would have been far better off if we had helped the Russians in that particular episode.

For all of the hand wringing we did about the Cold War, fundamentist Islam has caused us more damage in the past 3 months than Russia did in 50 years.

36 posted on 10/27/2001 9:57:26 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Brytani
Why is it that if Clinton hadn't done... blah blah blah everything would be okay yet Reagan and the Bush boys non-actions are overlooked here. Bush Jr. had been in office for close to a year when the WTC happened. If it had happened a year later would it have been Clinton's fault? 2 years? 5 years? 50 years? At what point does it become the sitting president's responsibility?
37 posted on 10/27/2001 10:00:45 AM PDT by sakic
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To: Shenandoah
William Jefferson Clinton sounds too noble. Let's just call him the "Evil One".
38 posted on 10/27/2001 10:04:21 AM PDT by arm958
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To: Alissa; Alamo-Girl; OKCSubmariner; BlueDogDemo
According to Richard Labeviere, Dollars for Terror (p. 303 of the English translation,) the order for the hit in Luxor was given at a meeting held a month before the strike, on Oct. 10, 1997, at 94 Dewsbury Rd. in Wembley (London NW, 10), in the house of Khaled Al-Fawwaz, spokesman of the ARC (Advice and Reformation Committee,) the London antenna of Osama bin Laden. bin Laden attended that meeting, so that he was apparently free to enter and exit England at that point. According to Labeviere, Scotland Yard Special Branch was aware of what was decided at that meeting.

ARC, by the way, is the same outfit that that lawyer Paul Gablia in Virginia was investigating when he ended up mysteriously murdered outside Dulles Airport in 1996.

39 posted on 10/27/2001 10:11:08 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Typo: that name should be Gabelia.
40 posted on 10/27/2001 10:16:17 AM PDT by aristeides
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