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It is my hope that when all is said and done with this issue that each and every plan will represent the concept of "one man, one vote" and that each of us as conservatives will have a satisfactory representative in Congress and our respective state legislators. We appear to be on our way to doing just that in Texas. With any luck everything will turn out for the best.

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Regards. E.G.C.

1 posted on 10/23/2001 3:09:44 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: E.G.C.
Neither side has "clean hands" when it comes to redistricting. Democrats screw Republicans in the states where they control the process, and Republicans screw Democrats in the states they control. Historically, the Democrats have done most of the screwing, e.g., California 1981 & Texas 1991, because they have been the dominant party at the state level until the 90's. Now that the GOP has at least an equal voice voice at the state level as the Dems, and complete control of many large states such as Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Florida, they are doing some screwing of their own. Interestingly, in the state where the Dems had the biggest opportunity to screw the GOP this time around -- California, which the Dems control top to bottom and which has 55 districts, i.e., gerrymandering opportunities -- they acted fairly, giving themselves only a 1 seat gain, and did not seek to gerrymander a larger advantage than the state's demographics dictate.

A good way to judge how fair a state's congressional map is, is to look at the popular congressional statewide vote totals per party, e.g., 52% GOP, 48% Dem, and compare that ratio to the party composition of the state's congresiional delegation, e.g., 6 GOP/5 Dem. The closer the two ratios are to each other, the fairer, and less partisan the map, and converserly, the greater the disparity between the two ratios, the more partisan the map. The Texas map of the last ten years is an example of the latter -- the GOP gets more congressional votes statewide, but the Texas congressional delegation is currently split 17/13 in favor of the Dems. This was accomplished by packing Republican voters into a limited number of GOP supermajority districts, while spreading Dem voters across a greater number of modestly Dem districts. Arizona is another example of a partisanly gerrymandered state, only in the GOP's favor, with a 5/1 delegation split in favor of the GOP, in contrast to a popular statewide 60%/40% vote split in the GOP's favor. Texas was controlled by the Dems 10 years ago, and Arizona was controlled by the GOP, hence the partisan maps.

2 posted on 10/23/2001 4:41:08 PM PDT by Ed_in_LA
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To: Ed_in_LA; supercat
Well, those are interesting observations. I will say this much. Whatever happens here in Oklahoma, here in Southwest Oklahoma, both our congressional districts are represented by conservatives and the one in Southeast Oklahoma which we will be placed in is represented by a conservative Republican who was once a Democrat. We've been fortunate to have satisfactory representation in that regard. That's hasn't always been the case on the state level. We've had situations where the Democrats have been gerrymandering districts for their own personal gain. This has happened the last three times with this. I've talked to some who were taken out of Republican districts and put into Democrat districts and a lot of them don't seem too happy about it. This is a very conservative state which favors Republicans and is very sensitive to how they are represented in Congress and the state legislature. I understand Gary Condit's district was redrawn to try to get him defeated. So, it does cut both ways depending on which political bent your region takes. Thankfully mine where I live cuts conservative.

Thanks for your posts in this thread.
regards.

4 posted on 10/24/2001 3:30:12 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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