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How Clinton Turned U.S. Intelligence Into a Cash Cow
http://www.newsmax.com/ ^ | Thursday, Oct. 18, 2001 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 10/19/2001 1:07:53 PM PDT by freedomnews

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To: FreeYourMind
"The Clinton administration did not consider Russia, China or Osama bin Laden to be a threat against the United States. As much as I despise Clinton, this is just a flat out lie that he didn't consider bin Laden a threat, pure and simple...and I'm really getting sick of this sort of thing. There are plenty of reasons to not like Clinton without spreading lies like this and making conservatives look bad."

Surely you forgot the "sarcasm off" -- if not, then get serious.

21 posted on 10/19/2001 2:46:15 PM PDT by Endeavor
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To: FreeYourMind
Don't be so naive.

Clinton and the Taliban

News/Current Events

Source: The Conservative Majority

Published: Oct. 18, 2001 Author: Republican_Strategist

Posted on 10/18/01 11:30 PM Pacific by

Republican_Strategist

Now I wanted to bring something to your attention something that I think hasn’t received any real coverage by the media.

I don’t want to sound too presumptuous, but it would seem that Bill Clinton authorized and created the terrorist Taliban group and backed them from 1994 to 1997. It seems he and his administration had a sympathetic view of the Taliban seizing power in Afghanistan.

A certain book coincidentally called ‘Taliban’ may have some information on the Clinton administration’s support of the Taliban.

The author is one Ahmed Rashid. The primary source was Dana Rohrabacher, a representative and a republican in California has been very vocal about this very thing and has been critical of this long before the Sept. 11th attacks.

According to Rohrabacher, the Clinton administration played a role in creating the Taliban by giving a ‘green light’ to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and other gulf states to fund, direct, and organize the Taliban. Rohrabacher said at one point on the house floor in a Sept. 17th [1999] speech that the Clinton administration promised Pakistan and Saudi Arabia that it wouldn’t overthrow the Taliban.

The UPI reported it.

Also he made all to familiar accusations during the past eight years. He accused a department; the state department to be exact, of key withholding documents that would show the Clinton administration supported the terrorist Taliban movement and its seizure of power in Afghanistan.

The official he blamed specifically was assistant secretary at that time, one Karl Inderfurth.

Furthermore it seems one Robin Raphel, Clinton’s assistant secretary of state for south Asia affairs until mid-1997, is believed to be instrumental in the rise of the Taliban. She lived in Pakistan for a number of years and her husband was U.S. ambassador to that country.

He was killed in a bombing that also removed a Pakistani dictator.

One report suggested that several Islamic states expressed the belief that Raphel and other U.S. officials along with Afghans in the U.S. were on the payroll of Unocal’s payroll. They cite that she provided a fiery defense of Unocal and especially the Taliban in negotiations with the Afghanistan government.

During such an encounter, Raphel's words -- in effect asking the government to "give it up" -- were so insulting that Ahmad Shah Masood, Afghanistan's two-decade national resistance leader, threw down his trademark pakol cap, pointed to it and said, "I will continue to defend Afghanistan even if I control no more land than the size of this cap!"

It seems this teeth-shattering reply and unexpected blow to Raphel was the last straw. According to Afghan government intelligence sources, soon after this heated negotiation session the Taliban -- newly supplied with night-vision instruments, satellite maps, and other sophisticated gear -- aided by hundreds of Arab militants, Pakistani extremists and camouflaged Pakistan Army regulars stormed into Jalalabad and then into the Afghan capital.

Suffice it to say that during both terms in office, Clinton and his State Department were pulling for a Taliban military victory.

Clinton administration jubilation at such a victory was mainly rooted in its support of oil and gas pipelines. Dana Rohrabacher in his 19 May 2000 interview with Omaid Weekly accused the Clinton administration of providing covert support to the Taliban.

FYI***Hidy***

Those people who are just infatuated with Clinton know they can’t defend such a thing and with that they merely seek to counter balance it with Reagan’s support of Afghan fighters in their fight with the Soviets. If anything they in some way feel they can balance a Clinton failure with a brilliant Reagan success.

Reagan took an action that crippled our worst enemy, the Soviet Union, and that played a crucial role in the downfall of the Soviet Union.

As for Bin Laden, he worked closely with Pakistani military officials and Saudi intelligence officials, but he did not have a relationship with the Central Intelligence Agency, which also supported the Afghan resistance. Milt Bearden, the CIA station chief in Pakistan from 1986 to 1989, denied cooperating with bin Laden, but he knew of his efforts.

Bin Laden was there using his family’s 5 billion dollar fortune and construction business.

It seems Bin Laden served primarily as a fund-raiser and recruiter who publicized the jihad and helped transport Arab volunteers to Afghanistan. He became more involved in the logistics of supporting the jihad, bringing earth-moving equipment from his family’s construction company to carve out roads and bunkers in the rugged terrain of eastern Afghanistan along the border with Pakistan.

It is important to point out he became a terrorist threat during the Clinton administration, which missed at least two key opportunities to get him.

As for the stinger missiles we supplied to Afghanistan, the U.S. had a buyback program. It was estimated that we supplied them with over a thousand.

Out of that we managed to by some 450 of them, plus you have to minus the ones used and it would seem that there were very few left. Then factoring in time and deterioration, it would seem unlikely that there are any operable stingers left supplied by the U.S.

So as we now began to introduce troops in Afghanistan, we must be keenly aware of the Clinton administration’s support of the terrorist Taliban, we must be aware of the Clinton administration’s failure to capture or ‘take out’ Bin Laden on two occasions, and we must stand for people deflecting from these facts by dredging up Reagan’s overwhelming success in the region.

1 posted on 10/18/01 11:30 PM Pacific by Republican_Strategist

23 posted on 10/19/2001 4:30:35 PM PDT by MamaLucci
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To: MamaLucci
Bush had perhaps the best shot at taking out bin Laden well before Sept. 11, but apparently was more interested in getting his tax plan passed (you know, the one we can't pay for now).

Read about our missed opportunity here
24 posted on 10/19/2001 4:35:57 PM PDT by FreeYourMind
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To: freedomnews
bttt
25 posted on 10/19/2001 4:37:57 PM PDT by prognostigaator
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To: Digger
I am a fierce supporter of President Bush as some know, however, I would love to see all of the left over Clintonites gone, yesterday!
26 posted on 10/19/2001 4:45:17 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: FreeYourMind
Moscow's Permanent Mission at the United Nations "submitted an unprecedentedly detailed report" to the UN Security Council six months before the American atrocities.

Yes...let's blame the administration that was in power roughly 3 months subsequent to this "report",
following the most tightly contested presidential election in history, and the place still crawling with clinton operatives,
rather than the corrupt administration that covertly supported the Taliban government in Afghanistan.
What I took as naivete is looking more like an anti-Bush agenda.
27 posted on 10/19/2001 5:11:55 PM PDT by MamaLucci
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To: freedomnews
Bump to read after cocktails...I'm sure that will make this more pallatable.
28 posted on 10/19/2001 5:22:18 PM PDT by Lizzy W
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To: freedomnews
The Clinton administration did not consider Russia, China or Osama bin Laden to be a threat against the United States. Instead, Bill Clinton considered the economic threat of losing global contracts to our allies in Europe to be the greatest evil.
This article is a joke. Bush is treating Russia and China as allies and has given the Taliban tens of millions of dollars in his own administration. So, can the same accusation be made of him?
--Raoul
29 posted on 10/19/2001 5:25:53 PM PDT by RDangerfield
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To: freedomnews
Barth was so important that Tenet wrote to him personally, trying to convince Barth to stay inside the White House. "Barthman. Why are you leaving me?" asked Tenet in a 1993 White House e-mail. "Do you want my job? My wife? My 1974 Camaro? This place will suck eggs without you to keep me sane."

Tenet certainly has a way with words. Perhaps he could write for MTV.

32 posted on 10/19/2001 5:36:26 PM PDT by RippleFire
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To: FreeYourMind
...but apparently was more interested in getting his tax plan passed...

BTW, THIS little comment would be laughable if it weren't such a PATHETIC reminder of what B J Clinton
was "more interested in getting" while he was polluting our White House.
33 posted on 10/19/2001 5:42:41 PM PDT by MamaLucci
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To: Hidy
Bye Bye Hidy. It's a shame you were here so long.
35 posted on 10/19/2001 8:58:54 PM PDT by TheRealLobo
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To: farsighted
Never heard of him, but I'm glad you enjoyed imagining it.
36 posted on 10/19/2001 9:55:24 PM PDT by FreeYourMind
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To: MHGinTN
Ugh, any criticism at all of Bush on my part and I'm immediately thrust into the role of being Clinton-loving scum. Either you're on the bandwagon or you're off, eh? Fine, I can play devil's advocate...Well, your argument that Bush should not have tried to assassinate bin Laden prior to 9/11 "...without any international coalition, violating the airspace of the sovereign nation, Pakistan, violating the EO that makes assassination by an administration a criminal act..." can be used as reasoning behind why Clinton didn't do it, can it not? Although I believe I've read somewhere here that Clinton did make an effort to take bin Laden out at least once (as much as he can, given the laws against assassinations passed during the Ford administration), by way of having the CIA hire some mercenaries in the middle east. So if Clinton can try, why not Bush?
37 posted on 10/19/2001 10:20:32 PM PDT by FreeYourMind
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To: FreeYourMind
Although I believe I've read somewhere here that Clinton did make an effort to take bin Laden out at least once...

Clinton is a proven LIAR...why on earth would you believe anything he or his disgraced administration says?
Since 911 his entire purpose has been to try to spin his way out of his OBVIOUS (to anyone with a brain) culpability.
38 posted on 10/20/2001 10:26:05 AM PDT by MamaLucci
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To: RDangerfield
This article is a joke. Bush is treating Russia and China as allies and has given the Taliban tens of millions of dollars in his own administration. So, can the same accusation be made of him?

The money that went to the Taliban from Bush was given under the stipulation that the Taliban stop the growth of poppy in Afghanistan. See, any Faustian deal is ok, so long as the drug wars provide the semblance of a rational foreign policy.

BTW, the money given to the Taliban under the Bush administration was done so with the blessing, if not with outright political leverage, of esteemed members of the Senate (including Leahey, Clinton, and Schumer) who drafted and letter to Colin Powell pressurign the State Dept. to send the money. Powell supposedly would only send the money upon destruction of the poppy crop. A couple of threads on FR went over these details in the immediate aftermath of the 9-11 attacks. Still, doesn't make the support of the Taliban anymore palatable, even though it was clearly a "bipartisan" effort.

39 posted on 10/20/2001 11:14:08 AM PDT by citizenK
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To: regniwthgirkrejeenk
How gracious of you, you are giving the Bush Administration less than 3 months after inauguration to "get" Bin Laden. Any word on how many of his appointees were approved at that time?
40 posted on 10/20/2001 11:25:19 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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