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To: JWinNC
You will note that I did not use the words "eternal security." Eternal security can be a dangerous concept if not properly understood.

Isn't being assured of your salvation, that you can not lose it, "eternal security"?

SD

2,534 posted on 10/24/2001 12:52:23 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
"Isn't being assured of your salvation, that you can not lose it, "eternal security"?"

No. Two different things. I can be sure that God's grace is permanent and forever, but that does not mean I am assured of receiving it. I have accepted Christ and I believe I am saved, but I'm not one to be completely assured of it until my race is run and my life on earth is done. I know God's promise is true, but I'm also highly motivated to do right and to stay on the path.

IMHO,
JWinNC

2,538 posted on 10/24/2001 1:11:30 PM PDT by JWinNC
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To: SoothingDave
The security of the believer can better be understood, if we believe and understand that man is a dual being, That man has a twofold nature is abundantly proved by the Scripture. 2 Cor. 4:16, Eph. 3:16, Rom 7:22,

The child of nature is made so by birth, so is the child of God. The child of nature can have but one birth,the child of God can have but one birth. 1Pet.1:23. If you can understand the difference between the inner and outer man, having a carnal and spiritual nature dwelling in him and that the fleshly or carnal nature is at war wtih the spiritual nature you will no difficulty understanding the subject of the Security of the Believer. Roms. 7:14-25 gives a full description of these two natures.

No person who believes in works for salvation can believe in the security of the believer If we can help God save us, slavation is not whooly of God. If ANY carnal ordinance is necessary to our salvation, then salvation is part by works and part by grace and therefore not wholly of God. In order to obtain salvation we must be willing to surrender all to Jesus. If we surrender our selves to Him, then we become passive in salvation.We turn orselves over to him in repentance, for repentance is a turning away from sin unto God through faith in Jesus, and at this time God saves us in His won way. Acts 3:19 "Be converted." Conversion is God's work, we repent, but God does the converting.

Becky

2,548 posted on 10/24/2001 1:36:40 PM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
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