[hopefulpilgrim]

Where are you guys? We miss ya' over here!

[mitch5501]

Sorry 'bout that but these neverending threads have worn me out in no time flat.

I can't keep up so I'll keep outta da way!

Crusty old church fathers and dusty theology leave me cold sorry.Nothin' I can add to the neverending stoush.

God bless

[SoothingDave]

Are you saying Adam and Eve weren't having sex before they ate the apple, and there was no plan of them ever having children until they became aware of sin?

You then are saying that sex is sin, is that right?..(^g^)

Not at all. Just cause I said that women are enticing and it would be hard for Adam to resist didn't mean I was talking about sex. I would presume that Adam and Eve would have had children and populated Eden with their decendents, all of them free from Original Sin and destined for eternal life. After a while Eden may have gotten crowded, but I don't think that would be a problem for our infinite God.

After the Fall, the curse given to Eve is that she would have pain during childbirth. This, to me, leaves open the possibility of painless childbirth in Eden absent the Fall.

The sin in Eden was not sex, it was disobedience. And wanting to take the place of God.

SD