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In Which God Does America Trust?

I ran across a question about the famous quote "And if not.." in another post on FR. Chuck Colson's point deserves reiteration here, as well as a revisit to the faith that spawned a nation.

As FReeper Stefan Stackhouse puts it, "The point of the article was that today, such a biblical allusion would fly over the heads of most people, as our society is now biblically illiterate." (though Stefan thought the article was originally in World Magazine.)

During WWII the British and American population drew their strength and courage from their dominant Christian belief. Today that strength is sapped by nihilism and atheistic moral relativism, both of which dominate the anti-war peace-at-any-price crowds. Though, at this time they make pious noises about a god that is not Christian - one that all religions (supposedly) serve.

A perversion of the Christian faith is rife across major media. The depiction of ‘religious revival' in vigils and prayer services, and a debate about the role of ‘evil' in the attack on the World Trade Center has become common broadcast-fare. This is no reason for Christians to celebrate, as we hear that Christians should stand beside Buddhism, Islam and Judaism while ‘worshiping one God under many names.'

This is heresy to the traditional Christian ear. Media attempt redefinition of the Christian faith and depict God as having no wrath and no judgement - only love - and any Christian that dares speak of sin, or that God would punish a nation for sin is heretical to the media redefinition. Media squirm at the thought of God flatly stating that He is not the same as the gods of nations that surrounded ancient Israel. Media pale at His claim of being the only true God, and teeth gnash at the very thought of penalties for sin, and violation of His law.

The new media religiosity denies truth, without which there is no worship of the God of Christianity. Seeking to hide the truth about sin and judgment for fear of offending the feelings of non-Christians makes the cross of Jesus Christ a mockery, the Christian gospel of no effect and the whole of the faith meaningless. Socialists and their media revisionists know the gospel is meaningless if there is no sin to be forgiven at Calvary. They push a false god that is little more than a puppet that jumps to our need in time of trouble, pandering to cries for help and catering only to our whims and pleas, never asking anything in return.

Traditional American Christians of yore understood what was right and what was wrong. They expected and experienced the blessings and protection of God when they followed his laws and lived righteously, and they rightly feared Him when they deviated from those laws. They understood that God was good and promised freedom over tyranny and justice over the unjust. Our forefathers understood the principles that made America good, that our country was the first in world history to be founded on the laws of nature and of nature's God, and they knew that their patriotic duty to their country was inextricably linked to their duty to God.

During the founding era, ministers presented a Christian religion steeped in a clear distinction between right and wrong and rooted in divine revelation - a religion that brooked no tolerance for injustice and sought no peace in the face of tyrants though urged by pacificists. Patriotism born of a faith in the Christian God drove the birth of this nation in bravery against overwhelming odds against it. That faith can be seen in sermons preached during the era, as this exemplified in the following excerpt from one delivered by Samuel Davies in 1758 to the militia of Hanover County, Virginia as new recruits were sought to fight in the French and indian wars.

    Cursed be he that doth the work of the lord deceitfully; and cursed be he that keepeth back his sword from blood. - Jeremiah 48:10

    Nothing can be more agreeable to the God of Peace than to see universal harmony and benevolence prevail among His creatures; and He has laid them under the strongest obligations to cultivate a pacific temper toward one another, both as individuals and as nations. "Follow peace with all men," is one of the principal precepts of our holy religion. And the great Prince of Peace has solemnly pronounced, "Blessed are the peacemakers."

    But when, in this corrupt, disordered state of things, where the lusts of men are perpetually embroiling the world with wars and fighting and throwing all into confusion; when ambition and avarice would rob us of our property, for which we have toiled and on which we subsist; when they would enslave the freeborn mind and compel us meanly to cringe to usurpation and arbitrary power; when they would tear from our eager grasp the most valuable blessing of Heaven, I mean our religion; when they invade our country, formerly the region of tranquility, ravage our frontiers, butcher our fellow subjects, or confine them in a barbarous captivity in the dens of savages; when our earthly all is ready to be seized by rapacious hands, and even our eternal all is in danger by the loss of our religion; when this is the case, what then is the will of God?

    Must peace then be maintained? Maintained with our perfidious and cruel invaders? Maintained at the expense of property, liberty, life, and everything dear and valuable? Maintained, when it is in our power to vindicate our right and do ourselves justice? Is the work of peace then our only business? No. In such a time even the God of Peace proclaims by His providence, "To arms!"

    Then the sword is, as it were, consecrated to God; and the art of war becomes a part of our religion. Then happy is he that shall reward our enemies, as they have served us. Blessed is the brave soldier; blessed is the defender of his country and the destroyer of its enemies. Blessed are they who offer themselves willingly in this service, and who faithfully discharge it....

    ...Some [Americans] lie dead, mangled with savage wounds, consumed to ashes with outrageous flames, or torn and devoured by the beasts of the wilderness, while their bones lie whitening in the sun and serve as tragic memorials of the fatal spot where they fell. Others have been dragged away captives and made the slaves of imperious and cruel savages. Others have made their escape and live to lament their butchered or captivated friends and relations. In short, our frontiers have been drenched with the blood of our fellow subjects, through the length of a thousand miles; and new wounds are still opening...

    Will this violence cease without a vigorous and timely resistance from us? No. We have no method left but to repel force with force, and to give them blood to drink in their turn who have drunk ours...

    I seriously make the proposal to you, not only as a subject of the best of kings and a friend to your country but as a servant of the most high God; for I am fully persuaded what I am recommending is His will; and disobedience to it may expose you to His curse...

    ...The cause in which these brave men, and our army in general, are engaged is not so much their own as ours. Divine Providence considers them not so much in their private, personal character as in their public character as the representatives and guardians of their country; and, therefore, they will stand or fall, not so much according to their own personal character as according to the public character of the people whose cause they have undertaken. Be it known to you, then, their success depends upon us even more than upon themselves.

    ...Ye that love ease and shrink from the dangers of war; ye that wish to see peace restored once more; ye that would be happy beyond the grave and live forever -- attend to my proposal. It is this: A THOROUGH NATIONAL REFORMATION. This will do what millions of money and thousands of men, with guns and swords and all the dreadful artillery of death, could not do -- it will procure us peace again, a lasting, well-established peace."

There is a song that says, 'Give me that old-time religion...' Give me the old time ministers over the new politically correct ones, and media portrayal of their message. Men like Samuel Davies are few and far between these days, as are parishioners who would take up arms under their leadership. Instead we have perversion - and false religious drivel. The God of heaven is the God of Peace, and the God of War - when it is waged through His will, with His blessing. But, will he bless a nation whose major institutions fail to uphold His laws? He has in the past - only when His people were righteous and looked to him in truth, faith and repentance.
1 posted on 10/15/2001 5:56:44 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: 1John; AAPATRIOT; AKA Elena; Alas Babylon!; ALOHA RONNIE; ambrose; AmericanInTokyo; Angelwood...

2 posted on 10/15/2001 6:03:23 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Stefan Stackhouse
You are mentioned here.. 8^)
3 posted on 10/15/2001 6:11:13 AM PDT by Ron C.
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To: Ron C.
A perversion of the Christian faith is rife across major media. The depiction of ‘religious revival' in vigils and prayer services, and a debate about the role of ‘evil' in the attack on the World Trade Center has become common broadcast-fare. This is no reason for Christians to celebrate, as we hear that Christians should stand beside Buddhism, Islam and Judaism while ‘worshiping one God under many names.'

This is heresy to the traditional Christian ear........

As a Christian I agree with you. Last night on 60 Minutes, in an interview with Condaleeza Rice Leslie stahl tried repeatedly to cast President Bush as following a Christian calling in his pursuit of the Islamic terrorists. Ms Rice persistently and adroitly kept restating the position as Good against Evil rather than Christian against Muslim. Although this is counter to your argument, it is important that the President of the United States represent all the people and that our constitutional protection of the free practice of religion be honored.

Your argument is appropriate for the churches and the people to follow in their private lives, and certainly trying to peacefully convert others is in order, but it is not a position that can be taken by our government, even a government founded on Christianity.

5 posted on 10/15/2001 7:06:03 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Ron C.
Thanks Ron. It was indeed a thought provoking article and comments. Off the basic message but I was stuck by Samuel Davies words ... "In short, our frontiers have been drenched with the blood of our fellow subjects, through the length of a thousand miles; and new wounds are still opening... Will this violence cease without a vigorous and timely resistance from us? No. We have no method left but to repel force with force, and to give them blood to drink in their turn who have drunk ours... "

Thanks for the flag.

6 posted on 10/15/2001 7:32:44 AM PDT by ImpBill
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To: Ron C.
Other differences:

- Tokyo residents were not shown in hospital after the Dolittle raid.
- Tojo's and Goebbels' addresses were not aired by all major media.
- Americans were not subjected to discussions about Shintoism and the Code of Bushido.
- "Experts" were not publicly asked questions about how the "Battle of Midway" would be fought.
- We were not asked to "understand" Japan's and Germany's reasons for perfidy.

We are weak. Many years of "feel good" liberalism have sapped out ability to wage "Total War" and to wage war in totality is the only way to win.

7 posted on 10/15/2001 8:45:48 AM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: Ron C.
Thanks for the heads up! };^D)
11 posted on 10/15/2001 4:48:24 PM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: Ron C.
Brilliantly and beautifully written. I am SO sick of so-called "Christian pacifists"; they are a reproach and they blaspheme His name.
12 posted on 10/15/2001 11:48:04 PM PDT by Ban Draoi
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