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To: Chuckmorse
There was a time in the history of Christianity when radical Christian extremists invaded the newly created Muslim world and tried to forcibly convert them or kill them - and get lots of booty at the same time. They were called the Crusades

The Muslim religion is about the same age that Christianity was during the Crusades, and the religion seems to be at that same point in it's evolution. Now, Muslim extremists are invading the non-Muslim world and forcibly converting non-Muslims or killing them - and getting lots of booty along the way. These people call their modern Crusades a jihad, but a an apple called by any other name is still an apple.

Both versions of these Crusadors, both Christian and Muslim, have one thing in common: certain extremist elements are interpreting their holy books in a way that they feel justifies mass murder - and getting lots of booty.

Is Islam peaceful? Most Muslims want peace. They interpret the Qu-ran in a way that does not justify mass-murder, just like many Christian sects.

So, Islam in general is peaceful, just like Christianity in general is peaceful. There will always be greedy, very unpeaceful psychopaths who interpret their religious texts in a way that they feel allows them to murder and plunder with impunity.

74 posted on 11/05/2001 6:56:54 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: cake_crumb
There was a time in the history of Christianity when radical Christian extremists invaded the newly created Muslim world and tried to forcibly convert them or kill them - and get lots of booty at the same time. They were called the Crusades

This is pure, unadulterated bullsh*t.

76 posted on 11/05/2001 7:17:22 AM PST by ppaul
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To: cake_crumb
There was a time in the history of Christianity when radical Christian extremists invaded the newly created Muslim world and tried to forcibly convert them or kill them - and get lots of booty at the same time. They were called the Crusades

If you really believe this, you must live in a parallel universe.
Newly created Muslim world? Quite a trick, since the "Golden Age" of Islam is considered the latter half of the 8th Century, and the first Crusade was not launched until 1096...

Forcibly convert or kill them? That's a Muslim/Arab concept.
Kill them? of course! The raping thieving Mass Murderers were cutting a swath through the Balkans and Eastern Europe.

Lots of Booty? LOL.
Even Grade school children know this is probably the primary motivation for the Jihad which has lasted almost uninterrupted for 1300 years.

160 posted on 12/10/2001 11:57:19 AM PST by Publius6961
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To: cake_crumb
The Muslim religion is about the same age that Christianity was during the Crusades, and the religion seems to be at that same point in it's evolution.

What a remarkably stupid statement!.
Let's see if I understand the concept correctly...

If I start a major religion today, I will get lots of attaboys from you and presumably from everyone else if in the year 3101 that religion has reached the level of ignorance, misery, filth, disease and savagery that existed in the 11th Century?

161 posted on 12/10/2001 12:05:46 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: cake_crumb; Chuckmorse
There was a time in the history of Christianity when radical Christian extremists invaded the newly created Muslim world and tried to forcibly convert them or kill them - and get lots of booty at the same time. They were called the Crusades

A moderate amount of education would help to remedy the serious deficits of both knowledge and understanding shown in the quote above. Here are some questions to guide your study:

1. "Newly created Muslim world" What does "newly created" mean? What nations and people were in the territory that stretched from India to Spain? What were the means by which the "Muslim world" was "newly created"? What was the response of the Muslims to those who decided they didn't want to become part of the "newly created Muslim world?
2. Had Europe by the time of the Crusades been invited to become part of the "newly created Muslim world"? Had Europe resisted? What was Europe's response to the Muslim "invitation"? How did this response relate to the Crusades?
3. How did the Crusades compare to the previous centuries of Muslim "new world creating" in terms of nations invaded, peoples subjugated, conversions forced, languages destroyed, religions persecuted?

Just to help you along: The Crusades were a response to the Muslim attack on Europe. They weren't successful in turning back the clock on what Islam had already done to North Africa (Spain had to wait until the 1400's to be entirely freed), the entire Middle East, Afghanistan, and India, but they did mark Europe's determination not to let the invasion proceed any farther. Of course, under the Turks, Islam did take more of Europe and managed to hold onto a shrinking portion until the late 1800s.
182 posted on 12/24/2001 7:34:57 AM PST by aruanan
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