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Raging Against Self Defense
Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Inc. ^ | © 2000, Sarah Thompson. | Sarah Thompson, MD

Posted on 10/04/2001 6:15:33 AM PDT by First_Salute

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To: First_Salute
pro-victimhood is a feature of all of the anti-gun special interest groups, not just the ones mentioned here. Every organization that supports gun control apparently wants its members to be helpless, terrified and totally dependent on someone else to control every aspect of their lives. It doesn't matter whether it's a religious, racial, ethnic, political, social, or charitable group. From Handgun Control, Inc. to the Anti- Defamation League to the Million Mom March, they all want you to live in fear. In this scheme, soccer moms are "victims" just as much as are inner-city minorities.

Journalists claim that their job is objective truth-telling--in other words, that they are teachers. But they are less than clear about what subject they teach. Since in fact we "pupils" do not have to listen, these "teachers" are actually entertainers who select the subject matter to avoid being ignored. The subject journalism teaches is, "Why you should be afraid."

It is no accident, then, that journalists have no interest in promoting effective defense which could actually ameliorate the fear. And, as the example of Ronald Reagan illustrates, conservatives reject the counsel of fear and are inherently in opposition to journalism's intrinsic message. Whereas "liberals" merely echo journalism's message--making any claim of independence of journalism from liberalism moot.

Why Broadcast Journalism is Unnecessary and Illegitimate.

21 posted on 10/04/2001 8:56:52 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: D Joyce
Flogging the "cycle of violence."

Tsk. Tsk. :-)

22 posted on 10/04/2001 9:05:39 AM PDT by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
Thanks for the post. Please keep me on your ping list, BUT

**** How can you communicate with these people who seem to be out of touch with reality and rational thought?****

I read only this far and gave up. I feel wonderfully free from trying to understand twits any longer in this life. They are now well marginalized and I expect the rag-heads to keep killing us with abandon which will keep that margin well off to the side and make it narrower and narrower..

23 posted on 10/04/2001 10:18:31 AM PDT by mercy
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To: michaelje
You commend Rabbi Mermelstein then continue "He is really a Jew that is one in a million. Most Jews here in the US are the leftists..."

Too bad those stinkos are taken to represent all Jews. In fact, 10-15% of pro-gun activists are Jews, and this after taking out all those liberal fools and the fact that Jews in toto make up only 1.8% of the U.S. population. Three of the largest 2A groups after the NRA are Jewish founded and/or lead - the JPFO's Aaron Zelman, the SAF's and CCRKBA's Alan Gottlieb. And the founder of TRT is Jewish. And a budding new 2A organization, JEWS-USA (JEWS - Upholding the Second Amendment) is being formed by a Jew, one Aaron Kait.

The leftist Jews you refer to are an embarrassment to many Jews, and don't even adhere to Jewish laws, morals and ethics that compel them to take deadly action when a person or the country is endangered, indeed to adhere to the laws of the land - here read as the 2A - where they are citizens. For example you will find:

Self defense is illustrated by the very graphic: "If someone comes to kill you, rise up early and kill him first!" -Talmud. No condition. No ifs ands or buts. Kill him first!

The Talmud is the source of Jewish laws and such outside the Bible.

When Jewish law and the law of the land where a Jew is a CITIZEN conflict, the following holds:

"The law of the state is the law". - Talmud

So those geeks don't represent Jews at all, just like the WTC terrorists don't represent Islam or Arabs. They are a fringe, albeit - unfortunately - a large one. They know essentially nothing of - rationalize - the holocausts that have followed Jews for thousands of years.

So judge Jews by the Mermelsteins, Zelmans, Gottliebs, Kaits and the many others you don't even know about thanks to the media and entertainment. And not by those abberations such as the Schumers, Boxers, Feinsteins, Streisands, Asners et al. They disgrace Jews and all other Americans.

No, they are not "one in a million", the pinkos only make them look that way. And that is a shame.

26 posted on 10/04/2001 7:37:41 PM PDT by MaryJo
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To: First_Salute
The absolute gall of that woman to compare what the innocent people in the Pentagon, the WTC and the planes went through at the hands of terrorists to Rush or Gordon Liddy disagreeing with her stupid Socialist scheme for health care!!! She and her jerk of a husband have GOT to be the MOST narcissistic people ever!!
27 posted on 10/04/2001 8:18:31 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert
Narcissism and fascism, the distinction between them, in the case of Clintonistas, being not much.
28 posted on 10/04/2001 8:25:33 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: MaryJo
"The leftist Jews you refer to are an embarrassment to many Jews, and don't even adhere to Jewish laws, morals and ethics that compel them to take deadly action when a person or the country is endangered, indeed to adhere to the laws of the land - here read as the 2A - where they are citizens. For example you will find: "

Mary Jo, for the record, I am a Jew. I judge the majority of the Jews the way they deserved to be; as immoral communists who scream for abortion rights and will do anything within their power to trample gun rights. So, while I agree that a fraction of Jews are conservative, God fearing individuals, the majority are not.

I stand by my earlier comments.

29 posted on 10/05/2001 10:01:48 AM PDT by michaelje
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To: First_Salute
Bump
30 posted on 10/05/2001 10:13:21 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: michaelje
"Mary Jo, for the record, I am a Jew. I judge the majority of the Jews the way they deserved to be; as immoral communists who scream for abortion rights and will do anything within their power to trample gun rights. So, while I agree that a fraction of Jews are conservative, God fearing individuals, the majority are not.

I stand by my earlier comments."

Unfortunately michaelje, I also stand by your earlier comments. I was trying to say that despite their puny numbers, the pro-gun Jews are very active in 2A and want to make that known as far and as wide as possible. That they loath those Jews that are screwing up our rights - as they loath ALL that are screwing up our rights.

I have strongly pro-2A Jewish friends that are very active in all sorts of community affairs, charities - all the stuff that good Jews, and Christians and Moslems, et al, do. But for those 2A beliefs they are ostracized and even accused of being Nazis and should be hanged for being NRA members "who are killing our kids by fighting "sensible" gun control laws." I have seen it myself and it was disgusting.

As I said, unfortunately you are right. And it isn't even those few representative pinkos I mentioned; it is the sheeples who follow them blindly. I have no concept of such behavior, and have asked the question 'til I'm dizzy. I understand that a Rabbi is not so much a religious leader as a teacher. What the hell are they teaching? If they do not know the facts but preach hearsay and propaganda, are they teachers - Rabbis? If they know the facts but still preach the lies, are they Rabbis? Are they even ethically and moralistically Jews? I think not. As far as I know, the term is Judeo-Christian ETHICS.

Too many false "teachers of religion" today - culminating on 9-11 in those who so bastardize the tenets of Islam that we have this current horror. I wonder if that is an analogy to the Jews going to the gas chambers and death pits so readily. Did their "Rabbis" preach a dangerous form of pacifism? I have heard it said that at least early on they were told not to resist, that maybe a few would be lost, but most saved. Surprise!

BTW, my friends do not tend towards "God fearing individuals". In fact many, to say it diplomatically, flat out don't like God. And they generally don't fear too much - one exception being the erosion of our natural and inalienable rights.

31 posted on 10/05/2001 12:16:47 PM PDT by MaryJo
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Mary Jo, seems we are on the same level. I misinterpreted your earlier post, my apologies. Best thing we can do is hope that the "good Jews" some day out number their counter parts. But untill then, the fight goes on.
32 posted on 10/05/2001 3:22:00 PM PDT by michaelje
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To: MaryJo
You raise a number of good points that I hope other on this thread read. By the way what is the meaning of 2A ?

Have a good one.

33 posted on 10/05/2001 3:24:51 PM PDT by michaelje
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michaelje

Yea, the fight goes on and maybe the pinkos - Jews and non-Jews - rot in hell. I hope my stuff does kick off some questioning. I certainly hope it focuses on just how much the "good" Jews fight for our rights. At least the JPFO is well respected.

From what I've seen, the pinkos are a lost cause, not unlike other holier than thou ignoramouses. I've seen my friends all but cry - and many are some tough hombres - trying to reason with them. They flat out don't want to see the facts - or at least look at what we consider the facts.

2A? Second Amendment.

Is shalom in order, especially tonight being the start of the Jewish Sabbath?

34 posted on 10/05/2001 4:11:23 PM PDT by MaryJo
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