Posted on 10/04/2001 2:03:10 AM PDT by 2Trievers
The author ought to choose his words more carefully. Who exactly is occupying whom? Where are those Muslim bases? Troops? And where are ours?
Agreed. This reads like a high school essay, and was surely only published becuase the hysteria of our time demands more hysterical pulp to feed itself. I think I am going to have a year-long barf attack before this whole thing is over.
But this is one of those articles that future generations will have trouble with. The basic point is correct, as is the argument against pacifism, but the argument is a little too overheated with the image of conquering armies putting us under their thumb. The other problem is that the martial spirit that flourishes in times of real crisis can be exploited later on in less justified ventures.
I think the Jews under the Nazis are a good example of what happens when people practice pacifism. Then they need someone else who isn't a pacifist to come in and rescue them.
See also Bellesiles, Michael.
>Agreed. This reads like a high school essay, and was >surely only published becuase the hysteria of our time >demands more hysterical pulp to feed itself. I think I am >going to have a year-long barf attack before this whole >thing is over.
I feel your pain.
Ahhhhhh! But the governments are free (therein lies the problem).
Let me start with my favorite quote, it can not be repeated enough:
War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
~~ John Stuart Mill ~~
Then a few words about "slimy" Donohue's (of junk TV fame) manic performance discussing how to respond to terrorism with Fox News' O'Reilly.
His pathetic emotional feel-good bug-eyed performance just underscored the mental vacuity in these people.
The satisfying thing about watching these losers rant is the certain knowledge that in any Islamic environment he and his kind would quickly fade into well-deserved oblivion forever.
I couldn't help wondering throughout the whole performance, how brief his pathetic rant would have been had he been debating the Taliban...
It totally escapes him that his ability to be able to mouth stupidity is made possible only by the response to evil through action and sacrifices of those he is attacking.
I simply can't understand the hysteria about the enemy landing on our shores. Is no one here aware that we have made the Middle East our bitch-boy? We supply Israel (really, we prop her up), we have landed and stayed in Saudi Arabia; we bomp Iraq with the regularity of Old Faithful; we armed and trained the Afghans we despise today; we fooled with Iran until they vomited up the Great Satan's waterboy; and on, and on, and on. What the hell are we doing?????????????????????????
The message is largely correct, but the rabbid-dog delivery has closed everyone's ears. - Tabby is right, how can a people who even pay property taxes call themselves free?
I recommend a careful reading of Clausowitz's On War And Sun Tzu's similar book.
That you are moulding young minds with the level of understanding of human nature and behavior in countries other than our own is truly frightening.
Self-styled intellectuals get to make up their own words.
Legends in their own minds.
I assume he meant "bellicosity" or "bellicoseness"
Twit.
>I still can't understand what happened at FR.
Never misunderestimate the general level of ignorance in any one large group of people.
But school's in session here, and between correcting work and pouring milk, sitting in front of the computer is good in-between work.
Thank goodness for the breaks you take here. Your rationality and dead aim is very much needed here at present.
I simply can't understand the hysteria about the enemy landing on our shores. Is no one here aware that we have made the Middle East our bitch-boy? We supply Israel (really, we prop her up),
What I cannot understand is those "conservative" pro-Israelis who scream "anti-semitism" as soon as someone suggests that welfare for Israel is detrimental to the country. Do they not accept that the welfare state has undermined the US socially and intellectually? So how is it any different with Israel? And someone who suggests -- as Netanyahu rightly did himself several years ago -- that Israel should be weaned off of US welfare is somehow "anti-Israel". Bizarre. I would think the opposite, but this world is upside down. I have stopped trying to make sense of all the contradictions.
I wish you well.....but must you shout?
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