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Political Left Beginning to Finger clinton for Terrorists' Success
Charlie Rose, The Sunday Times (U.K.), Middle East Intelligence Bulletin, WSJ,KPFKLA,O'Reilly Factor | Andrew Sullivan et al.

Posted on 10/01/2001 12:24:07 PM PDT by Mia T

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To: Mia T
Could it be that this worm has finally started to turn. I hate to say it in these troubled times, but this just makes me giddy. What goes around comes. How's it feel bubba boy? Great post.
21 posted on 10/01/2001 2:14:00 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Askel5
Truly, it was the Blood Trail and the human life digging that finally brought the Escher drawing into focus for me. GOP's top dog. The Dems -- including Howdy Doody Clinton -- are just a clown car used to distract the crowds from whatever the ringmaster's readying centerstage.

Well, I have to admit, your notion really at least appears to have credibility. So you think that the elite honchos use the GOP to run the show, allowing Dems to get elected (in the case of Clinton, actually going out of their way through Ross Perot) in order to weaken and distract us while they prepare for the next wave to thrust us into their long term plans? You may be right. Actually, it makes sense. There's no question in my mind that they control both parties. Really disheartening. Oh well, as I said, it's enough to drive a person mad. I think that writer ACE once postulated that they were using Clinton to set up Cold War II. Looks liked it turned hot with the perfect excuse. You probably remember that quote by D. Rockefeller, something along the lines (paraphrasing), "The only thing left to take America into the NWO is one more crisis." Something like that. At any rate, you probably know what that means, and the implications are just too much for me to handle right now.


22 posted on 10/01/2001 2:16:55 PM PDT by Coyote
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To: cdw19390
Blow-dried.
23 posted on 10/01/2001 3:05:03 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Mia T
Again, a wonderfully talented "ensemble" to digest, Mia T!
24 posted on 10/01/2001 3:07:25 PM PDT by AKA Elena
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To: independentmind
You're right of course but in defense of the indefensible; look how impossible it was to get the electorate excited over articles of impeachment: perjury, subornation of pejury, and abuse of power? Trying to convince them that Clinton was a foreign policy catastrophe waiting to happen, and then linking this fact to amorphous characters possibly committing acts of terrorism on our turf. I ask you, what chance did they possibly stand? Americans' little grey cells are activated only by pictures, I'm afraid.
25 posted on 10/01/2001 3:18:32 PM PDT by Aedammair
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To: Mia T
Clearly clinton had no idea how to or inclination to lead, which was one reason why he was always taking polls.

Interesting that in Woodward's book, The Choice, clinton fantasizes about having a big issue to define him, such as a war, "I would have preferred being president during World War II" he said one night in January 1995. "I'm a person out of my time." How ghastly to contemplate THAT scenario. ! Yet he is blind to what he should have done about the repeated acts of terrorism against us.

And we have the absurd Chris Matthews bemoaning that clinton did not have the chance he actually HAD. Note: I only cap real people.

26 posted on 10/01/2001 4:14:54 PM PDT by boltfromblue
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To: independentmind
It's fine with me to examine Clinton's complicity in wrecking our national security. Let's not fool ourselves about the complicity of Republicans,though, particularly when they controlled both houses of Congress.

Slick was in on this too. It's called blackmail. Uncle Wee-Wee's first move as president was to silence the Republicans by stealing any FBI files he could find on them. As for the Republicans...Wonderful, ain't it, that we have such castrated paragons of virtue in Congress, that the American people go unprotected? Your tax dollars at work...

We need a thorough housecleaning in Washington. For a start, I recommend a government based upon a separation of money and state. Pull the money plug...i.e. end taxation, and you won't find any pigs at the trough because there won't be one.

27 posted on 10/01/2001 4:22:17 PM PDT by StealthChild
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To: Mia T
As Clinton continured his search, he lamented that he could not see a big, clear task before him. Part of him yearned for an obvious call to action or even a crisis. He was looking for that extraordinary challenge which he could define and then rally people to the cause. He wanted to find that galvanizing moment.

He WAS the crisis.

28 posted on 10/01/2001 4:30:15 PM PDT by StealthChild
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To: Mia T
Atta Girl!
It's been awhile since you fired upon the bastard.
Semper Fi
29 posted on 10/01/2001 7:10:05 PM PDT by river rat
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To: Coyote
Yeah ... it is enough to drive one to despair but, given the fact there are folks like Ace about, I remain hopeful.

Actually, I do tend to think the "Tom Landry" types call the plays wherein Clintonesque quarterbacks run the ball in the muck for them. I have yet to find anything else that makes Sense.

Part of my problem stems from a Frontline episode, actually, wherein I realized for the first time that -- back in the late sixties -- a little "gathering of eagles" in some backwater polysci professor's home in Arkansas consisted of the next two Democratic presidents and a handful of Bob Dole type Also-Rans.

It struck me as sorta odd that such tight groups (both of "our guys" already IN the White House, the CIA, the hallowed halls of power and "Their Guys") wouldn't have some passing familiarity with each other somehow ... particularly given the Intelligence background of and Maotais among "our guys".

Heard on the C Street

30 posted on 10/01/2001 8:35:16 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Mia T
Interesting compliation.

Kudos.

However, Andrew Sullivan (about the first article, above) is not himself from the political left.

BTW, "Pro-Terrorist ersatz Pacifist Krypto-Nazi Camel Butt Traitors Demand America Surrender to Terrorists."

31 posted on 10/01/2001 8:41:56 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: Coyote
I think that writer ACE once postulated that they were using Clinton to set up Cold War II.

I've had that same scary thought running through my mind for years. In the past decade, we've literally bent over backwards to turn China into a military/technological powerhouse. And, for some reason, I just don't think China has our best interests at heart. They have a ways to go, of course. They don't even have a navy, yet. At the same time, we kowtow to them on the Taiwan issue, the free Chinese. It just ain't right...

32 posted on 10/01/2001 9:03:00 PM PDT by FlyVet
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To: FReethesheeples
I agree. Always found Andrew to be a not easily classifiable, intellectually honest political admixture. He does, however, cite disaffected clintonoids in his piece...
33 posted on 10/02/2001 3:02:26 AM PDT by Mia T
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To: StealthChild

 
 
 
Well, with the help of the 100 corrupt and cowardly cullions, clinton
walked. The senators' justification for their acquittal votes requires
the suspension of rational thought (and, in the curious case of Arlen
Specter, national jurisdiction).
--Musings: Senatorial Courtesy Perverted, Mia T
 

THE OTHER NIXON

by Mia T
 
 
Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson, posthumously misappropriated.
 
Shameless pharisees in stark relief crowd the Capitol frieze:
 
Baucus, Biden, Bingaman, Breaux, Bryan, Byrd, Cohen, Conrad, Daschle, Dodd, Gore, Graham, Harkin, Hollings, Inouye, Kennedy, Kerrey, Kerry, Kohl, Lautenberg, Leahy, Levin, Lieberman, Mikulski, Moynihan, Reid, Robb, Rockefeller, Sarbanes, Schumer.
 
These are the 28 sitting Democratic senators, the current Vice President and Secretary of Defense -- clinton defenders all -- who, in 1989, voted to oust U.S. District Judge Walter Nixon for making "false or misleading statements to a grand jury."
 
In 1989 each and every one of these men insisted that perjury was an impeachable offense.
(What a difference a decade and a decadent Democrat make.)
 
Senator Herb Kohl (November 7, 1989):
"But Judge Nixon took an oath to tell the truth and the whole truth. As a grand jury witness, it was not for him to decide what would be material. That was for the grand jury to decide. Of all people, Federal Judge Walter Nixon certainly knew this.
 
"So I am going to vote 'guilty' on articles one and two. Judge Nixon lied to the grand jury. He misled the grand jury. These acts are indisputably criminal and warrant impeachment."
 
 
Senator Tom Daschle (November 3, 1989):
"This morning we impeached a judge from Mississippi for failing to tell the truth. Those decisions are always very difficult and certainly, in this case, it came after a great deal of concern and thoughtful analysis of the facts."
 
 
Congressman Charles Schumer (May 10, 1989):  
"Perjury, of course, is a very difficult, difficult thing to decide; but as we looked and examined all of the records and in fact found many things that were not in the record it became very clear to us that this impeachment was meritorious."
 
 
Senator Carl Levin (November 3, 1989):
"The record amply supports the finding in the criminal trial that Judge Nixon's statements to the grand jury were false and misleading and constituted perjury. Those are the statements cited in articles I and II, and it is on those articles that I vote to convict Judge Nixon and remove him from office."
 
* * * * *
 
"The hypocrite's crime is that he bears false witness against himself," observed the philosopher Hannah Arendt. "What makes it so plausible to assume that hypocrisy is the vice of vices is that integrity can indeed exist under the cover of all other vices except this one. Only crime and the criminal, it is true, confront us with the perplexity of radical evil; but only the hypocrite is really rotten to the core."
 
If hypocrisy is the vice of vices, then perjury is the crime of crimes, for
perjury provides the necessary cover for all other crimes.
 
David Lowenthal, professor emeritus of political science at Boston College makes the novel and compelling argument that perjury is "bribery consummate, using false words instead of money or other things of value to pervert the course of justice" and, thus, perjury is a constitutionally enumerated high crime.
 
The Democrats' defense of clinton's perjury -- and their own hypocrisy -- is
three-pronged.
 
ONE:
clinton's perjuries were "just about sex" and therefore "do not rise to the level of an impeachable offense."
 
This argument is spurious. The courts make no distinction between perjuries. Perjury is perjury. Perjury attacks the very essence of democracy. Perjury is bribery consummate.
 
Moreover, (the clinton spinners notwithstanding), clinton's perjury was not "just about sex." clinton's perjury was about clinton denying a citizen justice by lying in a civil rights-sexual harassment case about his sexual history with subordinates.
 
TWO:
Presidents and judges are held to different standards under the Constitution.
 
Because the Constitution stipulates that federal judges, who are appointed for life, "shall hold their offices during good behavior,'' and because there is no similar language concerning the popularly elected, term-limited president, it must have been perfectly agreeable to the Framers, so the (implicit) argument goes, to have a perjurious, justice-obstructing reprobate as president.
 
clinton's defenders ignore Federalist No. 57, and Hillary Rodham's constitutional treatise on impeachable acts -- written in 1974 when she wanted to impeach a president; both mention "bad conduct" as grounds for impeachment.
 
"Impeachment," wrote Rodham, "did not have to be for criminal offenses -- but only for a 'course of conduct' that suggested an abuse of power or a disregard for the office of the President of the United States...A person's 'course of conduct' while not particularly criminal could be of such a nature that it destroys trust, discourages allegiance, and demands action by the Congress...The office of the President is such that it calls for a higher level of conduct than the average citizen in the United States."
 
Hamilton (or Madison) discussed the importance of wisdom and virtue in Federalist 57. "The aim of every political constitution is, or ought to be, first to obtain for rulers men who possess most wisdom to discern, and most virtue to pursue, the common good of the society; and in the next place, to take the most effectual precautions for keeping them virtuous whilst they continue to hold their public trust."
 
(Contrast this with clinton, who recklessly, reflexively and feloniously subordinates the common good to his personal appetites.)
 
Because the Framers did not anticipate the demagogic efficiency of the electronic bully pulpit, they ruled out the possibility of an MTV mis-leader (and impeachment-thwarter!) like clinton. In Federalist No. 64, John Jay said: "There is reason to presume" the president would fall only to those "who have become the most distinguished by their abilities and virtue." He
imagined that the electorate would not "be deceived by those brilliant appearances of genius and patriotism which, like transient meteors, sometimes mislead as well as dazzle."
 
(If the clinton debacle teaches us anything, it is this: If we are to retain our democracy in this age of the electronic demagogue, we must recalibrate the constitutional balance of power.)
 
THREE:
The president can be prosecuted for his alleged felonies after he leaves office.
(Nota bene ROBERT RAY.)
 
This clinton-created censure contrivance -- borne out of what I have come to call the "Lieberman Paradigm" (clinton is an unfit president; therefore clinton must remain president) -- is nothing less than a postmodern deconstruction in which the Oval Office would serve for two years as a holding cell for the perjurer-obstructor.
 
Such indecorous, dual-purpose architectonics not only threatens the delicate
constitutional framework -- it disturbs the cultural aesthetic. The senators must, therefore, roundly reject this elliptic scheme.

In this postmodern Age of clinton, we may, from time to time, selectively stomach corruption. But we must never abide ugliness. Never.

 
 
 
Schippers, who was hired by House Judiciary Chairman Henry Hyde (R-Ill.) as chief investigative counsel for the impeachment, labels the process one of "lies, cowardice, hypocrisy, cynicism, amorality, butt-covering."

Schippers Book May Rock Senate

...The House Managers were real heroes. Trent Lott stabbed them in the back. They were not allowed to argue their case or to present any witnesses. Regardless of the final vote, one hundred (100) senators agreed from the start to go along with the bogus rules dreamed up by Lott and Daschle. That ended any possibility of a fair trial based on the evidence. They all broke their oaths of office and their trial oaths by doing this.

--Cicero

Historians will record that Republicans could not muster the necessary sixty-seven vote Senate majority to convict the President at trial.
 
Those same historians should note, if only in a footnote, that not a single senator made the trip to the Ford Building to review documentation of Clinton's "nauseating", "alarming" and "horrific" sexual misconduct; evidence that ultimately made the difference in the impeachment vote.

America's Impeachment Secret

Musings:
Senatorial Courtesy Perverted
by Mia T
 
Well, with the help of the 100 corrupt and cowardly cullions, clinton
walked. The senators' justification for their acquittal votes requires
the suspension of rational thought (and, in the curious case of Arlen
Specter, national jurisdiction).
 
I don't think it's over, though.
 
There are cloakroom whispers of incipient (spiked) charges and imminent
(spike heel) shoe-droppings.
 
And from Drudge:
Broaddrick is talking to WSJ's Dorothy Rabinowitz in Arkansas while 60
MINUTES is "circling" the clinton rape covered wagon.
 
Of course, a clenched-jawed clinton reeks revenge. I suppose the best
take is that, at the very least, his utter degeneracy has been exposed,
no one of any import will ever believe him again, and he is effectively
muzzled and hog-tied for the rest of his tenure.
 
All this while hillary indecorously impales herself on the horns of a
dilemma. (I am finding the farm animal metaphor for this pair especially
cathartic today.) hillary's megalomania pushes her toward a Senate run
in which her opposion will doubtless dredge up her criminality. What to
do?
 
Clinton's acquittal is reducible, I think, to the fact that the
irrational fear of the "right" whipped up by clinton spinners (watch
them spin), has trumped the very rational fear of the pseudo-leftist
psychopath.
 
A final thought (for now):
To spite us all, Arthur Schlesinger will live
to 120 just so he can write the definitive clinton hagiography.
 

 

One more...

Hillary has found that the best refuge for a co-scoundrel is the Senate--where they take very seriously the concept of courtesy.--

--Hillary's Solo Act - Vanity Fair

 
 

 


34 posted on 10/02/2001 3:25:32 AM PDT by Mia T
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To: Mia T
For those who would blame 'republicans' for any of the current agony in America, imagine if you will that either Geo. Bush Sr., in 1992, or Sen. Dole, in 1996, had not been cast as aloof and dottering by the media, had not had their support diluted by the machinations of H. Ross Perot, and had won their elections. How likely is it, if they had won, that we would be anywhere near our present state of national distress? The fault, the cause, the responsibility lie squarely with the Commander in chief whose policies and actions were not merely 'negligent', but were recklessly, knowingly and deceitfully contemptuous of the concept of national security. What is outrageous about Clinton, is that his behavior in this regard was obviously and patently predictable before he was elected. He not only had no competence in matters of national security as well as seething disdain for matters military, his shameless and more than evident huckstering left no doubt he had neither the stomach nor the character to make the tough choices required in a serious administration of matters of national security. If there is a second rank, beyond Clinton, to carry fault in our present torment, we should look not at the republican party which to survive has to swim in the sea of public opinion, but to the media, the celebrity elite, and the liberal 'intellectual' effete, all of whom knowingly draped Clinton the candidate, and Clinton the president, in a protective cloak of unreal and delusory admiration while deliriously reveling in their petty arrogance and slander of Bush Sr, of Dole (both combat veterans with long and proven records of public service and national devotion).
35 posted on 10/02/2001 3:37:57 AM PDT by Gail Wynand
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To: Mia T
The DEMS and LIBS have a new stategy. They are saying "See we need Big Government after all".

What horse manure. The DEMS - when given the choice of guns or butter.....choose butter 100% of the time.

Conservatives have long preached the main duty of government is protection of the nation. All else is secondary.

36 posted on 10/02/2001 3:51:16 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: river rat
I suspect that, to spite us all,
Arthur Schlesinger will probably live to 120
just so he can write
the definitive clinton hagiography.
--------Mia T, Musings: Senatorial Courtesy Perverted

 

 

What harm can clinton do? He has less than two years left.
--Senator Dale Bumpers
 
A C-SPAN survey of 58 U.S. historians has concluded that Bill Clinton is the president with the lowest 'moral authority' -- beating out Richard Nixon for last place, Monday's NEW YORK TIMES is set report.

----C-SPAN PRESIDENTS POLL: CLINTON JUDGED LOWEST IN MORALS

 

I think history will view this much differently.

-----the First Psychopath, himself

 
 
...[bill clinton], a man who will be regarded in the history books as one of our greatest presidents.

-----Al Gore at clinton's post-impeachment rally

 

clinton's ranking will likely get worse over time. Economic issues fade in importance over time. Moral issues presist and grow. (paraphrase)

------Douglas Brinkley, history professor,

on Washington Journal discussing C-SPAN poll

 
 
It is not the strength but the duration of great sentiments that makes great men.

-----Nietzsche 

History Lesson
by Mia T
 
Someone--was it Maupassant?--
once called history "that excitable and lying old lady."
The same can be said of historians.
 
Surely it can be said of Doris Kearns Goodwin,
the archetypical pharisaical historian,
not-so-latently clintonoid,
Lieberman-Paradigmatic
(i.e., clinton is an unfit president;
therefore clinton must remain president),
intellectually dishonest,
(habitually doing what the Arthur Schlesingers of this world do:
making history into the proof of their theories).
 
The Forbids 400's argument is shamelessly spurious.
They get all unhinged over the impeachment of clinton,
claiming that it will
"leave the presidency permanently disfigured and diminished,
at the mercy as never before of the caprices of any Congress."
 
Yet they dismiss the real and present--and future!!--danger
to the presidency and the country
of not impeaching and removing
this admittedly unfit, (Goodwin)
"documentably dysfunctional," (NYT)
presidency-diminishing, (Goodwin)
power-abusing,
psychopathic thug.
 
Doris Kearns Goodwin and those 400 other
hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton,
retrograde-obsessing historiographers
are a supercilious, power-hungry,
egomaniacal lot in their own right.
 
For them, clinton validates
what Ogden Nash merely hypothesized:
Any buffoon can make history,
but only a great man can write it.
 
 


37 posted on 10/02/2001 3:53:00 AM PDT by Mia T
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To: Mia T
I want to see the gothics with something about bin laden in there...

oh yeah bill shaking hands with castro---doing his heavy lifting--carrying his water for the camels/revolution!

38 posted on 10/02/2001 3:54:05 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Gail Wynand
 
400 hog-and-bow-tied-save-clinton retrograde-obsessing historiographers BUMP  
 

Q ERTY1

Q ERTY2

Q ERTY3


39 posted on 10/02/2001 4:09:57 AM PDT by Mia T
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To: f.Christian
 
Don't lose
Your head
To gain a minute
You need your head
Your brains are in it.
--an old roadside ad, Pushme-Pullyou
 
 
 
 


40 posted on 10/02/2001 5:32:45 AM PDT by Mia T
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