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More CIA Revelations - Political Correctness Kills
NewsMax.com ^ | Sept 30, 2001 | Christopher Ruddy

Posted on 09/30/2001 7:24:00 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow

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To: borisbob69
When I started reading your post I was deep in thought about my own life's experiences as they relate to events of the past few weeks. Then I came to the part where you wrote of retiring from the United States Air Force.

My thoughts were of the day in July, 1956 when I stepped off an Air Force C-121 onto the 115+ degree tarmac of Wheelus Air Base in Tripoli, Libya. That day ushered in a very meaningful eighteen month crash course on the middle east. Within a few weeks I was watching our radar chart the progress of the British and French air attack on the Suez Canal. If I remember correctly, they came down from the northwest, over Crete, and proceeded on an easterly heading over the northern Mediterranean. We did not know at the time what or who they were, or what their destination was. They had kept their plans secret from the US until they arrived over the target. It was then when I realized the solidarity of Muslim countries. We had to seal off our Air Base, (note that Air Force Base was not used) from the hoardes of infuriated Arabs who saw us as implicit in the attack against Egypt.

Then, as now, and only twelve years after WWII, The most powerful country on earth was not willing to call a spade a spade. To use the word "Force" might offend someone. Nevermind that Rommel and Patton had fought all over the Libyan Desert slightly more than a decade before, and that Italian Facists had ruled Libya, we needed to keep a low profile lest we offend a country that had sixteen medical doctors in it. Honest, that is what we were told. After a few weeks of classical Arabic language training, I was able to converse(barely) with the Arab population. It was my observation that a deep hatred existed, not far below the surface of most Arabs, for anyone who was not of their culture or religion. It is now 45 years later. Little has changed.

21 posted on 09/30/2001 8:20:10 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: Fighting Falcons
I do put my faith in God, FF - which is why I am not a fatalist.
22 posted on 09/30/2001 8:23:02 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: maica,KO5A,jmurphy4413,AGaviator,Squantos,harpseal,pocat
After 9-11, all of the military bases in the San Diego area went on "alert state hyper paranoid".

The lines at the gates stretched for a dozen blocks, it took 3 or 4 hours for on duty personnel to creep in. Officers in uniforms with the proper stickers, haircuts, and ID all got the minute engine, chassis, and trunk inspection.

The entire military establishment froze, work and training was cancelled. What the Japanese during WW2 could never do, OBL did do: bring the US military to a state of paralysis.

23 posted on 09/30/2001 8:28:11 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Fighting Falcons
It is His plan and it is not for us to question or attempt to alter.
Perhaps it is part of his plan that we do question and alter.
Perhaps some of us really don't have a clue what his plan is.
Perhaps it is in his plan that some be sheep and some wolves.
Perhaps it is time for America to once again fly with the eagles.
24 posted on 09/30/2001 8:28:29 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: anniegetyourgun
That's what scares me more than all the loaded planes I see passing overhead.
Yup - right on.
25 posted on 09/30/2001 8:32:07 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
There are a billion Moslems in the world. 19 of them is just about as statistically relevant to their ethnic group as a percentage as the 2 or 3 involved in the Oklahoma City bombing.
How frightfully poorly you understand us. You dismiss our call to arms against the radical Islamic fundamentalist terrorists on the grounds that it is just a misguided example of racial profiling.

If in a time past, Jesse James had stormed into your cabin and killed your sister, and then your neighbors rode out in a posse to "hang the James brothers" would you cry out for them to stop their misguided attacks on white men?

All we do, both that is powerful and weak, can be done to the benefit of evil or good. We have a moral obligation as humans to know the difference, and to act powerfully, and by necessary means, for good.

26 posted on 09/30/2001 8:40:18 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: ThePythonicCow
Ruddy hits the nail on the head with this one.

hidden problem for the Bush administration is that the
U.S. government, including our Pentagon, CIA and
other agencies, is still largely run by appointees of
Clinton-Gore or the career military and bureaucrats
Clinton-Gore promoted through the ranks.

That is one of my greatest concerns. Between the Intelligence
communitiy, defense and the State Department lots of
PC types have buried themselves like tics into,
middle level and high level positions. Patriots may be more rare
then this administration can deal with. Old hands are slipping away.

27 posted on 09/30/2001 8:48:11 PM PDT by blackbag
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To: billhilly
So, billhilly, what would you recommend? Your post is (as likely you were well aware) ambiguous.

Would you recommend that we call a spade a spade, go in and do what we have to do, as best we can, and if the Moslems rise up in a great hatred of the Evil Eagle, so be it?

Or would you that we consider it essential to avoid pissing off the people of Islam too much, essential to keep them nominally on our side, even it means leaving Osama to live on, as we did with Sadam.

I was in the Air Force too, but in Thailand, tracking satellites. Nothing especially relevant here. And since then I have not had the experience you've had in the government.

28 posted on 09/30/2001 8:48:34 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: billhilly
Thanks for your comments and insight.
29 posted on 09/30/2001 8:49:51 PM PDT by borisbob69
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To: ThePythonicCow
bump for later
30 posted on 09/30/2001 8:55:12 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: ThePythonicCow
Bush should be cleaning house rather than throwing life preservers to George Tenant.
31 posted on 09/30/2001 9:00:51 PM PDT by Kermit
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To: smolensk
Whenever I hear people promoting the diversity agenda particularly as it relates to gender I ask them who do they want answering their calls to 911 when they are in physical danger by a rapist, murderer, mugger or any other brutal villan. Its not an open question as I generally follow up with a description of the perpetrator as physically capable of doing great harm to the average man. Usually making reference to a 'biker' type will convey the meaning of the question. The point is understood but not conceded, much like the message of the article.
32 posted on 09/30/2001 9:01:03 PM PDT by RWG
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To: ThePythonicCow
You made some excellent points about how one group of people within a certain age range killed 7,000 people and certain elements within our own country will not check others who fit the profile more closely to assure our safety, that is a great argument. Anyway one thing that you neglected to mention is that political correctness is communist in origin and can be traced to Columbia University and East Germany prior to its arrival at Columbia University and what I believe the problem here is that the American public is very uneducated as to how evil communism actually is and what we need to do is remind people of this fact.
33 posted on 09/30/2001 9:02:06 PM PDT by peter the great
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To: ThePythonicCow
You ask important and thoughtful questions. It has been my experience that immediate and measured action, whether with children, animals or nations is effective. Do you remember when your parents were upset with you? If they punished you, appropriately, and in a timely manner, you felt that all was alright. Did you not?

It was my great pleasure to hear President Bush address the joint session of congress. When he said, "Whether we bring Bin Laden to justice, or justice to Bin Laden, justice will be done," I was overcome by the simplicity of that statement. What about you?

34 posted on 09/30/2001 9:08:01 PM PDT by billhilly
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To: billhilly
Whether we bring Bin Laden to justice, or justice to Bin Laden, justice will be done
Yes, that was a great line. It affectively answered those who complained that Bush's earlier use of the word "justice" displayed misguided weakness. The critics were thinking of "justice" as in a court of law. Whereas Bush made it clear he was thinking of "justice" like a Texan.

The critics should have remembered one of their earlier complaints against Bush - the number of executed convicts in Texas while Bush was governor. Then perhaps they would understand what he can mean by the word "justice."

35 posted on 09/30/2001 9:18:14 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
As far as I know, every single terror attack on commercial aviation in the past 30 years has been perpetrated by Arab men between 20 and 35 years of age. Not "profiling" them is insane. Leaving aviation aside, U.S. embassies and military facilities and personnel have not been attacked by Polynesians or Finns. The threat is from Middle Eastern Islamic radicals, primarily Arab. As the southerners say, you hunt where the ducks are.
36 posted on 09/30/2001 9:18:20 PM PDT by TheMole
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To: smolensk
Your wifes way of thinking is found in Scripture and she is 100% correct. You may want to look at my previous post and consider the origins of political correctness.
37 posted on 09/30/2001 9:24:52 PM PDT by peter the great
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To: peter the great
By private email, "peter the great" asked me to post a link to this thread to another thread: The Origins of Political Correctness by Bill Lind. This other thread is dated July 10, 1998. It finds the origins of Political Correctness in Marxist ideology, with strong parallels between economic and cultural Marxist ideology.

Though I post this link, I do not find it that helpful. Rather, I am currently reading The Liberal Mind by Kenneth Minogue, which I am finding to be a better explanation of such misguided thought patterns.

38 posted on 09/30/2001 9:33:18 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
the next terrorist attack that takes down a building may come from some other ethnic group, like the one represented by Tim McVeigh.

Oh, come on! Anyone with half a brain knows that McViegh was not alone, and was simply a foot-soldier being manipulated by middle-eastern terrorists! Or are you that naive to think he did it all alone. Hell, had he talked, he knew they'd kill the rest of his family!

39 posted on 09/30/2001 10:07:33 PM PDT by smolensk
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