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Hi there, Here's my advice: It's almost impossible to convince Liberals (egalitarians) that their policies are infantile & idiotic - unless they've first had a couple economics courses. To Liberals, "wealthy" (U.S./European/Asian) people don't deserve "protection" or "self defense." To dems, wealthy, successful citizens are "part of The Problem" -- and 'deserve' what they get, for being insensitive, overly rich, selfish and blahblahblah. If I could get them in my economics classes for two weeks, I could very quickly provide evidence convincing them that U.S. wealth isn't "the problem." -- The "problem" is an ongoing lack of productivity and the difficult harsh environments (droughts, etc.) that makes people in most 3rd world countries poor, and triggers fairly regular bouts of regional violence, crime rates and corruption - including terrorism (as a usual by-product). The "Rich" don't cause the droughts in Africa; Droughts just happen, and with a regular, horrifying frequency. They (the dems) like to cling to the class-conflict model of world problems, because that finger-pointing 'explanation' is much easier -- than getting a degree in hydrology or engineering and - going over and helping install irrigations systems in poor countries, using World Bank money or private investment funds. Democrats are very immature and pathetic. They are 'part of the problem' -- but refuse to see this. They need to eventually decide to put away the soap box and GET BUSY - like responsible, mature adults. You can to ahead and try to argue with the Soccer-mom socialists if you want. But they have never been educated about the particular causes behind poverty (natural disasters, for example) and really have no conception of the origins of poverty, wealth and global problems. Until they are, they will probably tend to blindly gun-grab and redistribute income, thinking this will fix the Droughts, floods, new crop diseases etc. (Wealth redistribution does nothing but help a few corrupt dictators get rich with few of the local problems being adequately fixed.) If Dems REALLY "cared," they would roll up their sleeves and WORK HARD - to be productive, and make the world a better place. Instead, they are sad, immature, and pathetic. A few more mechanical engineering majors and a few less "conflict resolution" majors -- that's what the rest of the World needs over the long term. In the face of a drought, a country like Afghanistan or Chad doesn't need "Anger-management" lectures or Grief counselors. They KNOW how to be Angry, just fine. What condescending nonsense 'Peace Studies' and Conflict-Resolution courses are. Pure drivel, and a pathetic waste of taxpayer money. But, that's the direction our colleges are taking today. It's really sad. What the people in these developing counties NEED, is water-resource managers and new, drought-resistant rice crops from students who studied hard as plant-genetics majors. Most people in poor countries aren interested in religious bigotry or a cultural war with the West, they just want to eat every day. Tell the Democrats to leave successful, wealthy countries alone - tell them to stop being part of the problem -- and get themselves into a solid, productive professional field. Too hard, though. Much more fun to piously boohoohoo, whine, burn candles, and etc., for some of them. Hope this approach helps. Don't be nasty about what you say to Liberals. Just express your concern about problems in other areas of the world, and point out REAL solutions, not bogus juvenile ones. Say "We are in agreement -- things need to change." Then show them the way to the nearest Agricultural Engineering department. Good luck!, Pam, in LA :)