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Love and hugs won't change terrorists who hate us
St. Paul Pioneer Press ^ | Friday, September 21, 2001 | JOE SOUCHERAY

Posted on 09/21/2001 4:15:15 PM PDT by jdege

Love and hugs won't change terrorists who hate us

JOE SOUCHERAY Pioneer Press Columnist

If I see one more letter to the editor that advocates some sort of hug-and-love therapy for our enemies I am going to ... I don't know what I am going to do. It wouldn't do me much good to cancel my subscription. The Enemy Paper carries just as many of those pathetic sentiments as we do.

This is not a complicated issue. There are people who hate us. Their hatred of us is ancient. Now, what I would like to know from all the hug-and-love people is just what they anticipate might come as a result of proceeding tentatively, trying to understand, exercising caution. This enemy doesn't want our love. They don't want you to throw your arm around their shoulders and invite them to the next backyard barbecue.

The brand of hatred practiced by Muslim terrorists is based on the belief that we are inconsequential and do not deserve to be on the same earth. Now, let me ask the hug-therapy-and-forgiveness crowd something else: You are the same people who worship at the new American altar of diversity. We are to be understanding of the differences among us, you say. I agree. We are all human souls under different kinds of skin. I buy that.

Why then, don't you expect the same from the terrorists? These people obviously don't practice any acknowledgement of diversity. You want to forgive and hug and proceed slowly and not rock the boat. Well, why don't you demand of the enemy that they, too, welcome diversity, meaning that they should welcome us? Their idea of diversity is to kill as many different kinds of Americans as they can.

For example, I do not intend to hijack any airliners and dive-bomb them into Mecca. Right off the bat that makes me more enlightened than the thugs who killed us in New York and Washington.

Yes, of course, in America we are all entitled to our opinions no matter how ridiculous they might appear in print. And more and more letters to the editor will appear that call for us to hold hands and light a candle and sing songs about butterflies and maybe this will all go away. Do you know what you sound like with such gibberish? You sound like spoiled, selfish people who want to click your heels three times and maybe you will end up back in Kansas. The hug-therapy-and-forgiveness crowd needs to read more. They need to think beyond their own feelings.

This enemy hates us. Let's even go the extra mile and try to see it from a love-and-hug-therapy perspective. Let's say we do what the love crowd wants us to do. Let's say we turn the other cheek and hope that our actions do not cause further terrorist attacks on our country. OK, I am trying to imagine that, and I am coming up with a blank. These people do not wish to own a little fuel-efficient car and go antiquing on weekends.

The only thing we should do with caution is plan the military strategy. I will be the first to agree that bombing Afghanistan is not the answer. Maybe isolated pockets here and there when we find out where the rats are hiding, but the country is already a devastated mess.

And caution is needed to understand that this enemy has nothing of material value to bomb and does not covet our material bounty. They don't want our land. And for all you hug therapists who worry that our driving SUVs brought about this attack, don't worry yourself needlessly. They don't even want the oil that you feel guilty about using.

They want us dead. If you want something to pray about, pray that it won't take a million Americans dead the next time before we all realize the truth.

And if you need to hug somebody, hug the soldiers getting ready to mobilize or those firefighters in New York who are bloodied and shell-shocked from digging in the rubble.

Joe Soucheray can be reached at jsoucheray@pioneerpress.com or (651) 228-5474. Soucheray is heard 2-5 p.m. weekdays on KSTP AM 1500.


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More of Joe at http://www.am1500.com/garagelogic/index.htm.
1 posted on 09/21/2001 4:15:16 PM PDT by jdege (jdege@jdege.visi.com)
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To: jdege
Excellent! This won't, of course, have any effect on the Kumbaya Krowd.......
2 posted on 09/21/2001 4:21:01 PM PDT by randog
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To: jdege
Great piece bump.
3 posted on 09/21/2001 4:26:21 PM PDT by riley1992
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To: randog
We've given millions of dollars to the Palestinian Authority.
We've stopped Israel many times from achieving victory in several battles.
We rescued and restored Albanian muslims to their country.
We saved Kuwait from Sadam.
We saved Saudi Arabia from Sadam.
We are the largest provider of food and charity to Afganastan.
the list goes on... with no response from the Arabs.
4 posted on 09/21/2001 4:26:32 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: jdege
As a friend pointed out to me last night, "What does Osama bin Laden want? - NOTHING"

He just wants all Americans dead. That's it. We didn't do anything. We all just deserve to die and he is working 24/7 to kill us all.

Hug this guy? Sure!

5 posted on 09/21/2001 4:27:22 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: jdege
People in Berkeley shouldn't read this. Their heads might explode.
6 posted on 09/21/2001 4:28:05 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: jdege
Joe is the Mike Royko of Minnesota. Too bad he is not read more on a national level - he's a real gem!
7 posted on 09/21/2001 4:28:06 PM PDT by GreatOne
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To: jdege
> Their hatred of us is ancient.

Interesting choice of words. The earliest that these terrorists could have hated *us* was 1776. As dubious as this assertion is, does 1776 qualify as "ancient?" Who exactly is *us*?

More silly rhetoric that adds nothing to our understanding of our enemy and the reasons we are in this situation to begin with.

8 posted on 09/21/2001 4:29:49 PM PDT by John Deere
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
As a friend pointed out to me last night, "What does Osama bin Laden want? - NOTHING"

That's what all the "love and hugs" folks (as the columnist calls them) can't seem to grasp.

At the turn of the last century, we knew what Kaiser Wilhelm wanted. We knew what Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito wanted. Ditto Stalin, Khrushchev, the PLO, the Khomeini, Khadafy, and Saddam Hussein. They made demands, the U.S. and whoever else said, "Forget it. Let's rumble."

So what is the policy change that bin Laden has stated will stop his war against America? Has he addressed that? Of course not -- he hasn't even admitted that he is the puppetmaster behind this. There were no calls claiming responsibility, no communique. I don't recall anyone saying that bin Laden has ever uttered the words "if," or "unless," or even "ultimatum" when speaking of his intentions. His mind's made up.

Nonetheless, there are those who steadfastly insist that there were some magic words that would have caused bin Laden to call off his unspoken fatwa, perhaps even calling all the what-is-Arabic-for-Kamikaze hijack crews home from their tour of duty in The Great Satan.

These people don't know what those words are that could have made a difference then, but they're quite sure they would be able to come up with them before more Americans die.

At least they say they're sure. I don't think they are sure at all. I think they don't want to face the fact that their ideology couldn't have delivered in this scenario.

Unfortunately, it may very well be that they will have company in that reality check soon.

9 posted on 09/21/2001 4:51:54 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: jdege
call for us to hold hands and light a candle and sing songs about butterflies and maybe this will all go away.

Nice line. A bump for Joe Soucheray.

10 posted on 09/21/2001 5:05:16 PM PDT by Dan De Quille
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To: L.N. Smithee
> So what is the policy change that bin Laden has stated will stop his war against America? Has he addressed that? Of course not . . .

Bin Laden has been extremely clear on what he wishes to accomplish and a number of sources quote him. Here is another one:

And there is such anger in the Middle East at the moment about the American’s policies here and whether it be the deaths of tens of thousands of children in Iraq, which Osama Bin Laden has spoken about, whether it be continued occupation and expansion of Jewish settlements in Arab land which he’s also spoken about, whether it be about the continued dictatorships, Arab dictatorships, which are supported in large part by the west, especially in the Gulf area, about which Osama Ben Laden has spoken about and condemned, . . . (Source)
You can accuse Bin Laden of many things, but being unclear is not one of them.
11 posted on 09/21/2001 5:07:00 PM PDT by John Deere
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To: John Deere
You can accuse Bin Laden of many things, but being unclear is not one of them.

To whom has he said these things?

Has he said that he is avenging the children of Iraq? Has he said that he wants the U.S. to stop funding Israel? If his problem is with Arab "dictatorships" (who is a Taliban leader to say such a thing?), why is he blowing up American buildings?

Let me ask you: What is it you think will get him off the USA's case?

12 posted on 09/21/2001 5:49:26 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee
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To: jdege
i catch the 'sush' every time i go through the area. garage logic is some of the best logic. i was traveling through a few days ago and he documented and discussed a group of 20-25 university age muslim men having a party on the 27th of ?oct.? i believe, ?1983?, the year america lost 200+ marines in beirut to terrorists. they were celebrating our loss. i would have buried all of them right then and there.
13 posted on 09/21/2001 5:54:49 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: John Deere
why don't you take a long drive off a short dock?
14 posted on 09/21/2001 5:58:40 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: John Deere
Puleez!!!!

"Understanding" Bin Laden is like trying to understand a snake.

They bite because they can.

You stop a snake by cutting off the head.

It's us or them.

15 posted on 09/21/2001 5:59:57 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: L.N. Smithee
john deere is here to sow the seeds of appeasement. off with the heads of appeasers!
16 posted on 09/21/2001 6:00:46 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: Lent,patent,rebdov,jesda,2sheep,jimkress,sadimgnik,MHGinTN
Question: How do you tell the "moderate" moslem from the covert radical jihadist?

Answer: You can't, you just have to wait for the bomb to explode.

17 posted on 09/21/2001 6:08:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: pocat,Squantos,harpseal,Common Tator,luvzhottea,semaj,TwoDees
BTTT.
18 posted on 09/21/2001 6:09:33 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: nunya bidness,stingray,wardaddy,FITZ,ankaboot,serge
BTTT.
19 posted on 09/21/2001 6:10:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Anonymous2
The seeds of appeasement

will not grow in a stone wall. There is no appeasing the profits of nothingness. The want the world to be a medivial system with sullen subjects grovling to Allah. Allah dosn't want a world of grovelers, he wants united, lively happy people with functioning brains and immagination. Allah wants this cancer of removed for his side. We will do it for him.

20 posted on 09/21/2001 6:15:45 PM PDT by oyez
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