Posted on 09/17/2001 6:21:21 AM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:19 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
To Muslim citizens of the world: Americans appreciate the public condemnations of the terrorist attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C., made by many of your political and religious leaders. It is heartening to know that much of the world stands in solidarity against such barbarism.
But there is something lacking in these condemnations. In some cases, the spokesperson notes that Islam should not be singled out because there are fanatical terrorists of all religious stripes. In other cases, he or she states that we have to understand that the Americans have somehow brought this on themselves.
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Like the author of this article, I find the self-absorbed whining of so many Muslims grating to the extreme. In some respect, many American Muslims have absorbed much modern American culture. In particular, they have absorbed the Oprahfied culture of victimhood. They demand understanding, yet seem to be completely lacking in understanding of the grief and anger of millions of Americans. If they understood--or gave a damn about--our grief and anger they would not expect--nay demand--that their petty concerns about slights, stereotypes and insults deserve any attention at a time that thousands are dead and the nation is embarked on a twilight struggle that may cost many more American lives in the long days ahead. As far as I am concerned, they can grow thicker skins and fight with us or shut the hell up and get the hell out of our way while we take care of business.
Bull. Neither Christianity nor Judaism has anywhere near the percentage of its believers seeking to kill civilians in the name of God now or in the past 400 years.
America's elites need to get out of denial about this.
IMMIGRATION resource library - with coast-to-coast list of local INS phone numbers!
When 5,000 are DEAD because they were Americans the whining from this community is infuriating in the extreme. If you don't like it, move to Afghanistan. If a person looks at a Muslim crosswise there, they're beheaded. Sounds like a dream society for the cowardly wusses at CAIR.
(Please send this to everyone you know.)
ATTENTION – PLEASE GO TO http://answering-islam.org/Silas/terrorism.htm
THIS IS VERY UGLY. IT WILL MAKE YOU SICK TO YOUR STOMACH.
BELOW ARE A FEW EXCERPTS FROM THE ARTICLE AT http://answering-islam.org/Silas/terrorism.htm ABOUT MUHAMMED THE FOUNDER OF ISLAM.
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We know that there are good and bad in all religions, but this case is different. This event reflects upon the man who started Islam: Islam is built upon Muhammad’s words and deeds. We see here that Muhammad had a woman brutally murdered. She was killed because she spoke out against him, and she was merely a nuisance.
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“....and Umm Qirfa Fatima was taken prisoner. She was a very old women, wife of Malik. Her daughter and Abdullah Masada were also taken. Zayd ordered Qays to kill Umm Qirfa and he killed her cruelly (Tabari, by putting a rope to her two legs and to two camels and driving them until they rent her in two.)
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Islamic history shows that as Muslims grew in power their forms of violence changed from criminal terrorism to outright warfare.
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MUHAMMAD’S EARLY TERRORIST ACTS
After moving to Medina, Muhammad began to have conflict with the Jews and pagans in the area. I’ll focus on several incidents, not necessarily in chronological order, that illustrate Muhammad as a terrorist.
The first terrorist incident involves Muhammad’s command to his followers to “kill any Jew that comes under your power”.
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“It is remarkable that tradition attributes Muhammad’s most cruel acts to divine order, namely the siege of Qaynuqa, the murder of Kab, and he attack upon Qurayzah. Allah’s conscience seems to be more elastic than that of his creatures.”..... Ibn Ishaq and al-Waqidi report that the prophet said the morning after the murder (of Kab Ashraf), “Kill any Jew you can lay your hands on.”.
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REVIEW
Here another man was murdered upon Muhammad’s command. This man was 120 years old. He was no physical threat to Muhammad and he did not urge people to commit violent acts against Muhammad or the Muslims. There was no discussion with Jewish leaders, there was no dialogue with Abu Afak; it was just an outright murder of another one of Muhammad’s critics. Abu Afak urged the people who lived in Medina to doubt and leave Muhammad. Abu Afak found that Muhammad’s sayings were strange and dictatorial. He chided the Arabs that put their faith in Muhammad. Muhammad heard of this and viewed the 120 year old man as a threat to his credibility, not to his life. Nowhere does it say that Abu Afak urged his fellow Arabs to attack or harm Muhammad. Yet for speaking his mind, for the benefit of his friends, this man was murdered by Muhammad.
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The bottom line is that Asma b. Marwan was not a legitimate threat to Muhammad. She didn’t scare him, she was not the leader of her tribe, and she had little or no influence. She was little more than a nuisance to him. Yet Muhammad had her murdered, again, in cold, premeditated blood.
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ADDITIONAL OBSERVATIONS
1) What alarms me the most about Islam is its disposition to violence and use of violence as a standard of God’s will.
Umayr is a perfect example of this. Here is a Muslim man, a friend of Muhammad’s, acting upon Muhammad’s request and going into a woman’s home under the cover of night. He comes upon the women, sleeping in her bed with her child, and murders her by plunging a sword through her body.
Afterwards, Muhammad tells the man that he has “helped God and his apostle”. If Allah were really threatened by this woman, I think He could have killed her Himself, don’t you? Does God need men to sneak around in the night and murder sleeping women?
2) What kind of religion is Islam really? Soon after Umayr murdered Asma, he went to her family and mocked them! He was laughing in their faces that he had murdered their mother and that they were powerless to do anything about it!
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Muhammad allowed his followers to even murder members of their own families!
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So, Muhammad blessed one of his men who murdered a one-eyed shepherd while he slept. Another person who didn’t want to follow Muhammad, another murder in Islam’s name. Muhammad’s trail of blood continued to grow.
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Here, Muhammad’s companions went out and attacked people, took some prisoners, then committed some brutal atrocities against their captives. These men were so destitute of basic human values, that they ripped an old women in half by using camels! When one reads of the horrible things the Serbs have done, one is offended. But I wonder how many Muslims know that Muhammad himself did and sanctioned such things. Muhammad was every bit as brutal as the Nazis.
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He had two singing-girls Fartana and her friend who used to sing satirical songs about the apostle, so he ordered that they should be killed with him.”
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Let’s stop here and examine this paragraph. Muhammad ordered that a man who apostatized, and his two slave girls, be killed. Khatal was ordered to be killed not because he killed his male slave, a Muslim, but because he apostatized. Islamic law does not allow a Muslim man to be put to death for killing a slave. Muhammad also ordered two slave girls to be killed for singing satirical songs about him. They sung satirical songs about Muhammad probably at least a year or more earlier. Now, after Muhammad conquered Mecca, it was his time to pay those slave girls back. These slave girls were not threats to Islam, or to the new Islamic State. They were only slave girls. They were ordered to be executed only because they sang a silly song about Muhammad.
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REVIEW
We see that Muhammad had many people murdered. By request, by command, by implication, Muhammad had many people murdered, many killed while they slept. There were no trials, no judgments, no dialog. If you insulted Muhammad, if you doubted his credibility and if you spoke out, you were murdered. Men and women, young and old, all were killed because of Muhammad’s hatred toward those who spoke out against him.
Here is a summary of the 7 terrorist murders committed upon Muhammad’s requests or efforts:
1) Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish man who was murdered because he was simply a Jew
2) Abu Afak, a 120-year-old man, murdered while he slept
3) Asma Marwan, mother of 5 children, murdered while she slept
4) A slave women, mother of two children, murdered while she slept
5) A one-eyed shepherd, murdered while he slept
6) A very old women, literally ripped in half by Muslims who captured her on a raid.
7) A slave girl, who was murdered because she poked fun at Muhammad.
I will add that there were many more people who suffered a similar fate. I choose not to list them here because of space limitations.
Make no mistake about it: Muhammad was a terrorist. Today’s Muslim terrorists follow his actions. Like prophet, like followers; today’s Muhammadan terrorists commit their acts based upon what Muhammad did.
Many Muslims are peace-loving people and are thoroughly disgusted about the acts of Islamic terrorism. Most Muslims do not know these historical facts about their own prophet. But Muslim terrorists are usually well-educated in Islam. They are pious people. Spiritual leaders. And they do what they do and how they do it following the example of their prophet.
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The order to kill Christians and Jews is in that verse. It is clear that Muhammad ordered his followers to fight those Christians and Jews to convert them or pay the Jizya, and if they don’t convert or pay, do you think that he told the followers to let them go in peace? It is very clear: convert... or pay with submission ... or die.
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Basically, Muhammad had an agreement with a number of Arab tribes. Some were peaceful with him, others disliked him. “Allah” gave Muhammad a “revelation” allowing him to break his word, the “agreement” with the pagan Arabs and attack them after the four sacred months were over.
Once again, Muhammad had gained power, and things changed. Now Muhammad was permitted to lie, i.e., break his agreement, and make war upon the pagans. Muhammad’s circumstances changed - Allah changed again.
Note that in the last quoted paragraph, it is supposed to be God telling the Muslims to go out and kill people. Some of these people had gotten along peacefully with the Muslims. But because they didn’t follow Muhammad, they were going to be attacked.
ISLAMIC TERRORISM UPON MUSLIMS WHO LEAVE ISLAM
Muhammad was not content to conquer by force, or kill those that merely opposed him verbally. Muhammad also taught that Muslims who leave the Islamic faith are to be murdered as well. Here are some quotes from Bukhari’s collection of Hadith. Remember, Bukhari’s Hadith is the second most important writing in Islam, following the Quran.
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Not only did Muhammad teach that Muslims are to murder those that have left Islam, “wherever you find them”, he further taught that a Muslim who commits this type of murder will be doing God’s service and be rewarded!
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Bin Laden was interviewed by a Muslim journalist, and the interview appears in the Jan 11, 1999 issue of Newsweek. Here are some excerpts:
QUESTION: “Why have you asked Muslims to target civilian Americans all over the world? Islam prohibits its followers from killing civilians in war?”
BIN LADEN: “If the Israelis are killing small children in Palestine and the Americans are killing the innocent people in Iraq, and if the majority of the American people support their dissolute president, this means the American people are fighting us and we have the right to target them.
QUESTION: “All Americans?”
BIN LADEN “Muslim scholars have issued a fatwa [a religious order] against any American who pays taxes to his government. He is our target, because he is helping the American war machine against the Muslim nation.
Below is an excerpt from ABC news.
ABCNEWS.com (on Osama bin Laden - edited for length)
His fatwa was clear: Americans must die, within the next few weeks.
U.S. troops will leave Saudi Arabia when Islamic terrorists “send the bodies of American troops and civilians home in wooden boxes and coffins,” Osama Bin Ladin vowed in an exclusive interview with ABC NEWS Correspondent John Miller. “We don’t differentiate between those dressed in military uniforms and civilians. They are all targets in this fatwa.”
Bin Ladin recently convened a meeting of fundamentalist extremists and sponsors of terrorism. More than 150 clerics named themselves the “International Islamic Front for the Jihad against Jews and Crusaders,” and issued a variety of fatwas. But Bin Ladin’s is the one that most concerns U.S. security analysts.
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#3) In June 1993 eight Muslims were arrested by the FBI. There were reportedly planning bombings targeting the United Nations headquarters, FBI offices, and the Holland and Lincoln tunnels, as well as several assassinations.
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#5) An arrested Hamas terrorist in Israel told authorities that Hamas leaders in held a workshop in Chicago where Hamas inductees were taught how to make car bombs.
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#6) Last year, a Muslim who converted to Christianity was attacked and his home was firebombed by Muslims in Minnesota.
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#8) Here is another foiled terrorist attempt in America....
Palestinian Guilty in Subway Plot
NEW YORK (AP) - A Palestinian who said he wanted to kill as many Jews “as I could take” was convicted today of plotting to blow up a busy subway station. Gazi Ibrahim Abu Mezer, who faces life in prison, jumped to his feet after the verdict was read and shouted “Allahu Akbar! (God is great)” as he held up the Koran, the Muslim holy book. The federal jury acquitted a second Palestinian, Lafi Khalil, of plotting the suicide-bombing. Last Monday, testifying against his lawyers’ wishes, Abu Mezer said he had planned to “martyr” himself and kill “as many (Jews) as I could take.”
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#9) In Nov., 1989, a Palestinian Muslim and his wife, murdered their own 14 daughter. Their daughter had not lived according to their view of Islam. Finally, the father and mother assaulted the girl. The mother held the girl down while the father stabbed her to death. Unknown to this Muslim family, this man was under investigation by the FBI, and a bug had legally been planted in the house. The entire murder was called on tape. As the girl struggled and begged her mother to help her, the father said in Arabic, “Die, die quickly, die quickly”.
This murder is written about in People magazine, 1/20/92.
#10) Even in America’s military there are Muslims who are charged with aiding the terrorists who have murdered American citizens. The following is from a recent news article:
NEW YORK (Reuters) - A former U.S. Army sergeant was indicted Wednesday for allegedly participating in a conspiracy led by Saudi exile Osama bin Laden to kill Americans abroad.
Ali Mohamed, 46, was charged with acting with others including bin Laden’s group al Qaeda to plan the murders of U.S. military personnel stationed in Saudi Arabia and Somalia and last August’s bombings of the U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania....... Mohamed, a former major in the Egyptian Army, was granted a visa to enter the United States in 1985 and became an American citizen. According to U.S. Army Reserve he enlisted in the U.S. Army in 1986 and was stationed at Fort Bragg, N.C.
The indictment charges that at least as early as 1989, bin Laden and others made efforts to recruit U.S. citizens including Mohamed to travel in the Western world to help al Qaeda carry out operations.
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Fortunately, America is not a hotbed of Islamic terrorism. Not yet anyway. Unfortunately, Muslim terrorists are at work all throughout the world. Violence is part and parcel with Islam. Here is just a small sampling of some of the Islamic terrorist actions that have occurred in the last 15 years.
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FRANCE - Several years ago, Muslim terrorist began bombing innocent French civilians. Here is one article:
TERROR Campaign widens; Bomb in Paris Subway
Chicago, IL., July 25, 1995 --At least four (4)people were killed and another 35 wounded in an afternoon terror attack that took place today in the Paris Saint-Michel underground station, near the Latin quarter. Police officials are investigating and wouldn’t immediately comment, but French Prime Minister Alain Juppe is quoted by the Reuters News service as saying that he believes that “there is a very strong suspicion of a (terrorist) attack”.
These attacks were similar to bombings carried out by Muslim terrorists in France in 1986, in which dozens of people were killed........
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Islamic guerrillas hold captive brides hostage to terror
By Martin Regg Cohn Toronto Star Middle East Bureau
BLIDA, Algeria - In the dead of night, in the name of Islam, four terrorists burst into the
home of 17-year-old Salima Amina Zenagui.
Accusing her of loose morals, the Islamic fundamentalists ordered Zenagui to cover her auburn hair with a hijab head-scarf. Then they abducted her at gunpoint to their underground hideout, where the teenager was forced to marry a terrorist twice her age.
After a religious wedding ceremony, he raped her - with a warning that any resistance would mean certain death. The bleeding didn’t stop for 15 days. The mental torture, and the physical cruelty, continued for another five months. During the long nights and endless days, Zenagui slowly lost her sanity. And the will to live.
Zenagui is one of thousands of young women and teenage girls believed to have been kidnapped by fundamentalist terrorists during Algeria’s five-year Islamic insurgency. Forced into so-called temporary marriages that are a religious license to rape, their screams are soon silenced.
Most of the victims have their throats slit, their bodies dumped in wells like the one discovered last week in Bentalha, just outside Algiers. Police were drawn by the stench of death to the 40-metre-deep well, where they found about 30 badly decomposed corpses of women and girls believed to have been abducted and raped after a massacre in the area a month ago.
Known as “zawaj al mutaa”, or “marriage of pleasure,” the controversial practice is disdained by mainstream Muslims today. It dates from Islam’s early years, when fighters in a holy war helped themselves to single women during periods of hardship or isolation.
Zenagui believes her captors were fundamentalist terrorists from the GIA, who rationalize rape as a way of motivating their men to sacrifice themselves for Islam. Even as they mistreat their captive women, they worship their God. In their hideout, Zenagui watched them pray toward Mecca five times a day. They read the Koran, Islam’s holy book, and often played inspirational cassette tapes about the Prophet Mohammed.
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EGYPT
In Sept 1991, in Imbaba, a district of Cairo, hundreds of Muslims attacked the minority Christians there, burning down a church with a Pastor’s wife inside. Other churches were attacked, and Christians were beaten. The government had to send in 3000 troops to stop the Muslims from continuing to attack the Christians.
During the last 8 years in Egypt, hundreds of Coptic Christians have been murdered by Muslims in Egypt. Even worshippers in church have been sprayed by Muslims welding automatic weapons.
CAIRO, Egypt (CNN) -- At least 60 people were killed on Monday when unidentified gunmen opened fire at the world famous temple site of Luxor in southern Egypt, according to the interior ministry. The death toll makes it the deadliest attack on tourists in Egypt.
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List of fatal attacks on visitors in Egypt since 1992
Prior to Monday, attacks by Muslim militants had killed 34 international tourists in the past five years. Overall, about 1,100 people have been killed since 1992, when the extremists launched their campaign aimed at ousting President Hosni Mubarak.
NIGERIA
In Oct. 1991, thousands of Muslims attacked Christian churches, businesses, and homes in Kano, Nigeria. Kano is in northern Nigeria, which is predominately Muslim. It was estimated that 300 Christians were murdered by Muslim mobs. Muslims were upset because Christian evangelists had been converting Muslims in the region to Christianity.
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PAKISTAN
When the Muslims in Pakistan found a torn up Quran in a mosque, 30,000 Muslims attacked the only majority Christian town (Shanti Nagar) in Pakistan and destroyed half of it! Churches were burned, businesses were destroyed, and women and girls were raped. The army had to come in to stop the Muslims. A worldwide outcry against the action prompted Pakistan’s Prime Minister Sheriff to help re-build the Christian homes, churches, businesses that were destroyed.
This action was not the work of an organized terrorist group, rather it was a display of real Islam. There was no Bin Laden leading this effort, there was no Hamas or Hezbollah orchestrating the action, it was ordinary Muslims, 30,000 of them, attacking a Christian village, because they thought that some Christian had torn up a Quran.
When Muhammad got offended, he murdered.... today, Muslims get offended, they murder. It is motivated by one and the same evil satanic spirit - the same dark spirit that appeared to Muhammad which caused him to attempt suicide - the same malevolent spirit that then talked him out of killing himself.... it had better plans for him. The same demonic spirit that had him massacre 800 Jewish men and adolescent boys, then enslave their women and children. These Jews had never clashed swords with Muhammad or his men until he attacked them. It had a thirst for blood, and during Muhammad’s last 10 years, the blood flowed.
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HOW DO MOST MUSLIMS LIVING IN AMERICA FIT IN?
Most Muslims are not terrorists. Many of them reject the actions of their Muslim brethren around the world. Unfortunately, since Islam teaches world domination, these moderate Muslims rarely raise their voices in protest. If the Israelis bomb Hezbollah camps in Lebanon, Muslims in New York, Detroit, and Los Angeles will organize a mass demonstration. But getting Muslims to condemn the terrorist actions of their brethren, say of those in Sudan, Egypt, Algeria, Afghanistan, Iraq is like pulling teeth.
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What does the future for Islam in America hold? One thing I am certain of; it holds terrorism. I’ve studied Islamic viewpoints on America. The majority of Muslims today view America as the last great wall that stops Islam. In their mind, America must be destroyed or brought down, by any means necessary. This is what motivated Sheik Rahman to blow up the New York towers.
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Once again I say, not all Muslims in America are terrorists. Many of them are good people. But the seeds of terrorism are planted deep within the theology of Islam. This theology, when free to grow and blossom, shows itself in the actions normal Muslims, in Muslim countries take when they feel that Islam is challenged.
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CONCLUSION
Muhammad was a terrorist. Based upon Muhammad’s actions and teachings, Islam justifies terrorism. Today, Muslims use that justification to attack and murder those who differ from them. Muslim terrorists follow in Muhammad’s footsteps.
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Who then really brought God’s message of His love for mankind? Who really taught peace? Surely, this man Muhammad was not from God. Instead, Muhammad is one of the false prophets Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24:11 -
“and many false prophets shall arise and deceive many”.
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There are more than six million Muslims living in the USA today.
Think About It – Thanks, Bob from Michigan.
Will never happen. My own take is that 30% of American Muslims are really pissed and deplore this killing of 5000+ Americans. The rest, 70%, are "philosophical" and neutral about it or even approve of this terrorist act.
So what do you propose, Bob?
We should ask all of the Muslim apologists to either fish or cut bait on this one. If Islam teaches Jihad, then it is Islam that is to blame. If Islam does not teach Jihad, then it it the Moslem leaders who are to blame.
Let us not pretend that this dilemma does not exist, it is crucial that we know who our enemy is.
Friends, my highest goal is that we remain a Christian nation with liberty and justice for all. The Bible states that "Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is Liberty." I believe that the source of America's greatness and the source of America's wealth and the source of America's liberties is The Gospel of Jesus Christ. I believe that if America continues down the path to secularization and rejection of God, then we will lose our freedoms, lose our prosperity, suffer great tribulation, become slaves and ultimately be destroyed as a nation. Taking all of this into consideration I am not opposed to reasonable but much smaller numbers of immigrants who meet the following list of stipulations.
First, I would demand that potential immigrants read, write and speak English proficiently at least at a 6th grade level. Rigorous tests should be designed and administered at American Embassy’s for the purpose eliminating applicants who do not know how to read, write and speak English proficiently.
Second, they must be "selected" or chosen from the upper income and or more highly educated classes in the nation that they hail from. Why? Because we want our immigration policy to strengthen our nation and thus we want ONLY the best intellectuals and most successful types of people to be eligible for immigration into America.
Third potential immigrants must either be well educated and have a useful University degree in a field such as medicine or engineering, or else they must have a high level of skill in an employable field such as engine repair, carpentry or plumbing. Potential immigrants must, for example, be computer programmers, electrician's or have some other such skill that is useful and makes them employable in the American economy.
Fourth I would demand that they have an American sponsor who is reasonably financially successful and could support them during their transition to self reliance.
Fifth, I would make them and their family ineligible to apply for American Citizenship and any kind of government benefits, whether welfare and or social security, Medical care, housing allowance, food stamps, University or college scholarships from any government supported agency of any kind until they have lived and worked in America for at least 21 years.
Sixth and most important of all, I would demand that in order to be eligible to obtain a visa to emigrate to America that potential immigrants must be a "Christian," any kind of "Christian." Using and defining the term "Christian" in the broadest sense possible. Potential Immigrants must be Orthodox, Anglican, Catholic or Protestant, or even members of western "Christian" cults such as the Mormon church or Jehovah Witness'es. Potential immigrants must prove this with documentable evidence of faithful membership in such a church in their own nation for at least 10 years prior to their application to emigrate to America.
Muslims, Buddhists, Hindi's, Taoist's, Ba'hai's, Pagan's, Wiccan Witches or those who practice Witchcraft or Shamanism, Atheists, Agnostic's and all members of all other manifestly non-Christian religions should be absolutely, permanently and strictly denied any and all rights to emigrate to America.
Friend, Will you agree with me that we want our immigration policy to make our nation stronger, not weaker?
Will you agree with me that anti-Christian Multi-culturalism is weakening our nation?
Will you agree with me that our immigration policy has to be modified, because as it currently stands it is harming more than it is strengthening our nation?
Please open your spiritual eyes and observe the wisdom of what I am proposing. I want to make America stronger because I believe that a strong America is a benefit to advancing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Can you imagine the wonderful implications for the Gospel of Jesus Christ if America were to grow stronger and stronger and wealthier in comparison to the nations of the world and if America at the same time became a more moral and more righteous and thoroughly Christian nation. Can you imagine how our missionaries in other nations would be benefited if America became a strong, righteous, moral, exceedingly wealthy and militarily dominant nation?
Friend, are you in agreement with me? Do you agree with me that we need a drastic and immediate change in our immigration policy in America? Can you see how important it is to keep America strong? Can you see how our enemies have been using immigration policy to weaken our nation and turn us further away from Christ?
I am sincerely yours, Bob from Michigan.
Unfortunately or fortunately, there is no one way to interpret Islam, it can drift quite a bit depending on leaders and circumstances. Therefore it is all the more incumbent on the current crop to chart a "moderate" path.
I realize some want to say Islam is totally evil, blah blah blah. As an American, there is no value to our country in that kind of talk. That is a religious point of view. We aren't going to outlaw a religion as a matter of civic law. What we need to do is clearly establish what it is that is expected of all Americans. Christians have the Gospels "My Kingdom is not of this world", "Lord forgive them for they know not what they do.", "Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar", "THose who live by the sword, die by the sword." and more. What can Muslims turn to to establish a stronger basis for tolerance than simpply accepting "People of the book" as minorities who pay extra taxes? Come on leaders of Islam in America, time to spell it out.
Rippin
Second, every Muslim and Arab should undergo a background check to find any connection to any anti-American group.
If they are found to have a friend of a friend who knew someone in any group, they should be deported.
Islam is the fastest growing religion, in the world and in the USA.
It is only PRUDENT that we acknowledge what members of the Islamic faith have done to the US and around the world and take action.
what "Christian Culture"? There are many
Friends, my highest goal is that we remain a Christian nation with liberty and justice for all.
The United States of America is not a theocracy, nor a Christian Nation. It never has been either.
First, I would demand that potential immigrants read, write and speak English proficiently at least at a 6th grade level.
And for the Americans who don't meet this? What of them?
Second, they must be "selected" or chosen from the upper income and or more highly educated classes in the nation that they hail from. Why? Because we want our immigration policy to strengthen our nation and thus we want ONLY the best intellectuals and most successful types of people to be eligible for immigration into America.
Much like the well-educated terrorists that carried out the WTC attack??
Third potential immigrants must either be well educated and have a useful University degree in a field such as medicine or engineering...
or aviation?
Fifth, I would make them and their family ineligible to apply for American Citizenship and any kind of government benefits, whether welfare and or social security, Medical care, housing allowance, food stamps, University or college scholarships from any government supported agency of any kind until they have lived and worked in America for at least 21 years.
And during those 21 years I assume you will allow them to live tax-free? It is only fair after all.
Sixth and most important of all, I would demand that in order to be eligible to obtain a visa to emigrate to America that potential immigrants must be a "Christian," any kind of "Christian....
Muslims, Buddhists, Hindi's, Taoist's, Ba'hai's, Pagan's, Wiccan Witches or those who practice Witchcraft or Shamanism, Atheists, Agnostic's and all members of all other manifestly non-Christian religions should be absolutely, permanently and strictly denied any and all rights to emigrate to America.
And presumably Jews as well. And what do you do with all the people who offend your religious bias who are currently US cititizens? Camps? Forced Re-Education? Kill a few million?
By the way, when exactly do you plan on suspending the United States Constitution? The Bill of Rights?
Friend, Will you agree with me that we want our immigration policy to make our nation stronger, not weaker?
In a broad sense yes, but not in the specifics you suggest. Personally I like the Consistution and religious freedom. You don't. Move the the Vatican.
Will you agree with me that anti-Christian Multi-culturalism is weakening our nation?
No, but I will agree you are a religious bigot.
Please open your spiritual eyes and observe the wisdom of what I am proposing.
The shredding of the Constitution for one. The establishment of a theocracy for another.
I want to make America stronger because I believe that a strong America is a benefit to advancing the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Can you imagine the wonderful implications for the Gospel of Jesus Christ if America were to grow stronger and stronger and wealthier in comparison to the nations of the world and if America at the same time became a more moral and more righteous and thoroughly Christian nation.
Yes, as a matter of fact I can imagine the pogroms already, followed by a new inquisistion and burnings of those who don't meet your definition of Christian. Can you?
Friend, are you in agreement with me?
Since I am an American and believe in the validity of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights, no. In fact count me against you and your proposals. You sound like a "Christian" (loosely used here) version of Usama bin Laden. Go read The Handmaiden's Tale by Margret Atwood for a fictional verion of what you are suggesting. It is not a nice picture. Of course it is written by a Canadan, not a red blooded American so it might be offensive to you.
You are a scarey man, Bob from Michigan. May God help you over come your bigotry.
1. Vietnamese and other southeast asians who know how bad communism is.
2. African Christians who are victims of terror in countries like Sudan.
3. Cubans can keep coming as fast as we can get them out.
4. Hong Kong, China(Taiwan only except for dissidents) and Philipines are pretty cool from what I've seen.
It doesn't have to be Europeans, in fact, most of them are hopelessly socialistic these days. As far as students from Islamic countries and new immigration from there, I could see a moratorium until we figure out what our new reality is.
Don't forget, this country needs immigration to prosper.
Rippin
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