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Dear Abby: Family Political Debate Opens Chasm Between Daughter, Mom
Dallas Morning News ^ | 9/13/01 | Paulne and Jeanne Phillips

Posted on 09/13/2001 1:55:57 PM PDT by madprof98

DEAR ABBY: At our Halloween party last year, which included both parents and children, my brother and I somewhat jokingly debated the two presidential candidates. My brother was for Bush. I was for Gore.

Sometime during the evening, my then 11-year-old daughter asked me why her uncle was for Bush and I was for Gore. I explained why I was for Gore and gave her four or five reasons. She asked again why her uncle was for Bush. I told her to go ask him.

During the merriment of the evening, I forgot about the subject until we were on the way home and my daughter asked me how I could think that killing a little baby was OK. I was speechless! I asked her where she had gotten such an idea. She said her uncle had told her that Gore thought it was OK to kill babies, and if I was voting for him, so did I. I tried to explain about a woman's right to choose -- and that I DO think a woman should have that choice, but I was so shocked I hardly knew how to defend myself.

It has been nearly a year now. Ever since that night my daughter has been very distant toward me. I have tried to talk to her about it several times, but she refuses to discuss it.

I'm at my wit's end. My daughter is now 12 and our closeness has been destroyed. I found out her class made Mother's Day cards, but my daughter never gave hers to me. There are no more hugs and kisses at bedtime -- just "good night."

What can I do? I love my daughter with all my heart. I'd give anything to have her the way she was before.
-- DESTROYED MOTHER IN DALLAS

DEAR DESTROYED MOTHER: Sit your daughter down and tell her that the subject of a woman's right to choose is a controversial one, and that it is OK if she disagrees with you about it. It's a topic about which everyone has to make up her (or his) own mind. Her uncle thinks the way he does, and you love him in spite of it.

Explain that you are not in favor of killing babies, but that you feel it is important for a woman to have the right to choose. Some women's lives have been saved because they were legally empowered to make that choice. It wasn't always the case.

Tell her that as she grows older, you want her to examine her reasons for feeling the way she does about this subject -- but you also want her to be open to different points of view, because there are more than one, and people have a right to their own opinions. It may not heal the breach your brother has caused, but it's a beginning.

And finally, I urge you to talk to your daughter's uncle about this entire situation. He could help a great deal by reinforcing what you have said -- and he should. He was out of line from the beginning for having given your daughter his inflammatory answer to her question.


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No matter how much our revulsion at terrorism from abroad draws us together, there are real and deep divisions among us here, and we are going to have to keep addressing those too.
1 posted on 09/13/2001 1:55:57 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98
Sounds like the daughter has more moral integrity than the mother and Abby put together. And good for the uncle while I'm at it.
2 posted on 09/13/2001 2:00:53 PM PDT by curmudgeonII
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What actually caused the chasm is the daughter's moral stand. Mom needs to quit blaming the uncle.
3 posted on 09/13/2001 2:01:05 PM PDT by Starrling
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To: madprof98
"Explain that you are not in favor of killing babies, but that you feel it is important for a woman to have the right to choose. "

To choose what? The uncle got it right and the Mom's upset because she can't explain it away with slick political doubletalk. Kids can see right through to the real issues.

4 posted on 09/13/2001 2:01:19 PM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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To: madprof98
Her uncle thinks the way he does, and you love him in spite of it.

How generous of her......

5 posted on 09/13/2001 2:02:13 PM PDT by GhostSoldier
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To: Starrling
Guess they think the uncle should have lied to protect the mother in her opinion. The mother made her choice - the choice to vote for the ability to kill babies. Is she supposed to have no consequences for her decision too?

Reality and truth hurt when some are faced with it.

6 posted on 09/13/2001 2:03:02 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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Guess they think the uncle should have lied to protect the mother in her opinion. The mother made her choice - the choice to vote for the ability to kill babies. Is she supposed to have no consequences for her decision too?

Reality and truth hurt when some are faced with it.

7 posted on 09/13/2001 2:03:27 PM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Askel5, Mercuria, Ms. Antifeminazi, Aquinasfan, Diamond, truthandlife, BibChr
This Dear Abby is for real. My jaw hit the floor on this one.
8 posted on 09/13/2001 2:03:38 PM PDT by Artist
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I think Mom is just upset that she is will not be able to indoctrinate the child as easily as she thought possible.

And if Mom is pro-choice, will she allow her daughter to choose a different position?

9 posted on 09/13/2001 2:05:45 PM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: madprof98
Why bother with this silly column? The letters are heavily edited, if not faked altogether and the "touchy-feely" responses are always predictable and from the liberal side of the fence. You could probably program a computer to generate this column.
10 posted on 09/13/2001 2:06:44 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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Notice what is NOT mentioned in this story? There's no Daddy in the picture. That might explain why the daughter worries about abortion, since she could be seen as "inconvenient" herself.
11 posted on 09/13/2001 2:08:17 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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I really didn't believe this one was real (I'm not a reader of the women's pages, anyway). But if, as you say, it IS real, I think it perfectly exposes the hypocrisy of the "Feminazis". If you can't explain your moral position to an intelligent 12-year old, then it is quite likely that you don't really HAVE a moral positon. Just expediency and personal convenience.
12 posted on 09/13/2001 2:09:01 PM PDT by RANGERAIRBORNE
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...I was so shocked I hardly knew how to defend myself.

That's because the murder of babies is indefensible.

Interesting how the innocent children understand that there is no such thing as a "fetus" -- it is a baby!

13 posted on 09/13/2001 2:09:05 PM PDT by TexRef
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Explain that you are not in favor of killing babies, but that you feel it is important for a woman to have the right to choose to kill babies

Hey, it was implied anyway. I guess twelve year olds can't rationalize as well as adults.

14 posted on 09/13/2001 2:09:29 PM PDT by Gil4
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To: madprof98
Mom's a stupid selfish person. I'll adopt that kid any day.
15 posted on 09/13/2001 2:09:50 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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I forgot about the subject until we were on the way home and my daughter asked me how I could think that killing a little baby was OK.

Out of the mouth of babes...

Stay strong kid.

16 posted on 09/13/2001 2:10:31 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Mole_In_Seattle
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"Explain that you are not in favor of killing babies, but that you feel it is important for a woman to have the right to choose...to kill her baby. "

Yeah, that will clear up the issue Abby!

17 posted on 09/13/2001 2:11:12 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: madprof98
As solidly pro-life as I am, I think the uncle was out of line.

The girl is 11 yr. old and as abhorrent as we find her mother's beliefs about "choice", it is not right (at that age) to undermine her relationship with her mother. IMO, it would have more appropriate for the uncle to state simply that he disagreed with Gore on the abortion issue. Anything beyond that should have been discussed with the mother beforehand.

I would be just as angry if the situation was reversed, and someone had told my 11 yr. old child that they voted against Bush because "he hates women and wants them to be oppressed by men."

Flame if you want, but I'm going off-line for a while.

18 posted on 09/13/2001 2:12:47 PM PDT by workerbee
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To: madprof98
Good for the child!...Children always see the world in simple terms...and yes the child does have more moral integrity than the parent.
19 posted on 09/13/2001 2:12:52 PM PDT by thingumbob
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To: Mamzelle
Notice what is NOT mentioned in this story? There's no Daddy in the picture. That might explain why the daughter worries about abortion, since she could be seen as "inconvenient" herself.

With NOW's recently-announced support of post-partum abortions up to seven years after a child's birth, it's only a matter of time before it's politically correct to go after the 12 year olds. The kid has a right to worry.

20 posted on 09/13/2001 2:13:18 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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