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To: elfman2
I doubt it. The planes would have taken down the towers if they had hit anywhere except the top floors. The structural support would burn away anywhere.

Agreed. Anyway, they probably just aimed at the middle of what was above the surrouning landscape, that is what it looked like to me. I dont see a great deal of planning here, and any grade school kid knows that a plane taking off, is full of fuel, and when it is finished with its trip at the end of a long journey, it is close to empty. That did not indicate any great planning. The reason they they hijacked planes at when they were full of fuel, is because the planes were near the target, and they were all trying to coordinate hitting the targets at about the same time.

I still say, it only took 4 guys acting alone to pull this off, no great master mind, and no outside financing was required. A master might have been behind it, but certainly it was not necessary. Anyway, the targets are suspect, why fly 2 of the planes into one building? A master mind would have picked 4 separate and distinct targets, and if there was outside financing, then more than 4 targets would have been chosen, and the targets would have been in more than 2 cities, it would have been in at least 4 cities for maximum effect.

What happened, is more likely 4 stupid crazy guys who dont mind suicide.

Until at least the pilots, and more preferably the passengers are armed, this could easily happen again. Isreal stopped hijacking by letting the passengers be armed. When I used to fly with my revolver, I would not have let any hijacker fly my plane into a building.

107 posted on 09/11/2001 6:51:13 PM PDT by waterstraat
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To: waterstraat
"What happened, is more likely 4 stupid crazy guys who dont mind suicide"

I've got to re-register opposition to this idea. If they were "stupid and crazy" they couldn't have succeeded in keeping this secret.

I'm not aware of any coordinated terrorist or military attack in history that was designed, financed and implemented by only those immediately involved in its execution.

One sociopath acting alone is always a possibility. In that regard, we'll likely see some kind of copycat hijacking attempts soon. Four, eight or sixteen like minded capable disciplined martyrs must be the product of a culture where there is no doubt as to the virtue of their actions. Otherwise, the reasoned thinking needed to manage the operation would also act to weaken their resolve. And there are no domestic organizations that are both vicious enough to do this as well as being capable of attracting and supporting these individuals.

Like a great athletic accomplishment, it's not as easy as it looks. Athletes require financing, recruiting, socialization, and coaching. There's no president for four skilled people planning and independently executing a simultaneous crime against humanity.

But this looks like a moot point now anyway, apparently suspects are being arrested and insiders are alluding to signals intelligence showing Ben Laden's involvement.

177 posted on 09/12/2001 10:37:38 AM PDT by elfman2
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