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Talarico’s ‘Sanctuary’ Church Minister Admits to Harboring an Illegal Alien
Texas Scorecard ^ | 9/21/2026 | Brandon Waltens

Posted on 09/22/2026 12:11:45 PM PDT by JeepersFreepers

New undercover footage shows a minister at Democrat U.S. Senate nominee James Talarico’s longtime church saying the congregation does not have “a lot of people who are religious” and describing St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church as “not a belief-based church.”

In the video obtained by Texas Scorecard, Rev. Carol Johnson describes St. Andrew’s as a “sanctuary church” and says an illegal alien from Guatemala who has “worked here for 8 years” has been living inside the church.

“We don’t have a lot of people who are religious here,” said Johnson.

“We’re not a belief-based church. We’re a values-based church,” she added.

“We don’t spend time on creeds.” Instead, she pointed to the church’s history of activism on LGBT issues, racial justice, and immigration.

For his part, Talarico has described himself as a “Christian who hates Christianity.” He has attended St. Andrew’s since childhood and repeatedly credited the congregation with shaping his worldview.

“St. Andrews in north Austin—it’s still the church I go to—really shaped my worldview,” Talarico said in a 2023 interview with Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary.

Talarico has also previously pointed specifically to the church’s LGBT activism and sanctuary activities when explaining how his faith influenced his political career.

During a 2023 appearance on Texas Impact’s Weekly Witness podcast, Talarico said St. Andrew’s was “really active in LGBTQ rights in the ’90s” and later drew attention for allowing an atheist to join the church.

“And then in the 2010s, again stirred some controversy by housing an undocumented family, a mother and son, who were close to being deported by ICE,” he added.

“That was the tradition that I was brought up in,” he continued. “It’s what led me to teach public school students on the west side of San Antonio, led me to run an education nonprofit and then led me to run for office.”

The latest footage also comes shortly after separate undercover recordings showed other St. Andrew’s ministers discussing the religious makeup and theology of the congregation.

Minister Babs Miller said in one recording that if St. Andrew’s members were asked whether they were Christian, agnostic, or atheist, “the vast majority would say agnostic or atheist.”

Longtime pastor Jim Rigby was shown in another recording discussing the congregation’s use of an “Inclusive Bible” that uses gender-neutral language.

Rigby has also publicly described an approach to worship that minimizes traditional Christian creeds. Johnson’s remarks in the new footage echo that approach.

Talarico has identified Rigby as a mentor and has said the church has played a prominent role in his public discussion of Christianity and politics.

Texas Scorecard has reached out to Talarico’s campaign and St. Andrew’s for comment without a response.For his part, Talarico has described himself as a “Christian who hates Christianity.” He has attended St. Andrew’s since childhood and repeatedly credited the congregation with shaping his worldview.

“St. Andrews in north Austin—it’s still the church I go to—really shaped my worldview,” Talarico said in a 2023 interview with Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary.

Talarico has also previously pointed specifically to the church’s LGBT activism and sanctuary activities when explaining how his faith influenced his political career.

During a 2023 appearance on Texas Impact’s Weekly Witness podcast, Talarico said St. Andrew’s was “really active in LGBTQ rights in the ’90s” and later drew attention for allowing an atheist to join the church.

“And then in the 2010s, again stirred some controversy by housing an undocumented family, a mother and son, who were close to being deported by ICE,” he added.

“That was the tradition that I was brought up in,” he continued. “It’s what led me to teach public school students on the west side of San Antonio, led me to run an education nonprofit and then led me to run for office.”

The latest footage also comes shortly after separate undercover recordings showed other St. Andrew’s ministers discussing the religious makeup and theology of the congregation.

Minister Babs Miller said in one recording that if St. Andrew’s members were asked whether they were Christian, agnostic, or atheist, “the vast majority would say agnostic or atheist.”

Longtime pastor Jim Rigby was shown in another recording discussing the congregation’s use of an “Inclusive Bible” that uses gender-neutral language.

Rigby has also publicly described an approach to worship that minimizes traditional Christian creeds. Johnson’s remarks in the new footage echo that approach.

Talarico has identified Rigby as a mentor and has said the church has played a prominent role in his public discussion of Christianity and politics.

Texas Scorecard has reached out to Talarico’s campaign and St. Andrew’s for comment without a response.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: church; illegal; sanctuary; talarico

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“We don’t have a lot of people who are religious here,” said Johnson. “We’re not a belief-based church. We’re a values-based church,” she added. “We don’t spend time on creeds.” Instead, she pointed to the church’s history of activism on LGBT issues, racial justice, and immigration. Minister Babs Miller said in one recording that if St. Andrew’s members were asked whether they were Christian, agnostic, or atheist, “the vast majority would say agnostic or atheist.” For his part, Talarico has described himself as a “Christian who hates Christianity.”

This is not a church, rather it is a political activist organization. They should lose their tax-exempt status.

What has happened to this once great Presbyterian denomination?

1 posted on 09/22/2026 12:11:45 PM PDT by JeepersFreepers
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To: JeepersFreepers

And of course she’s harboring an illegal. It’s a fashion accessory. ICE should go over and have a chat with the guy


2 posted on 09/22/2026 12:17:41 PM PDT by j.havenfarm (25 years on Free Republic, 12/10/25! More than 12,750 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: JeepersFreepers

“We’re not a belief-based church. We’re a values-based church,” she added.

That about says it all, their values not American ones. Besides she/it is a female pastor, so she/it is a heretic.


3 posted on 09/22/2026 12:22:36 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: JeepersFreepers

I believe Talirico is just another Democrat who will tell whatever lies he thinks will get him elected but has no intention of ever fulfilling the promises he makes. I can’t figure out if it’s the voters don’t care or are to lazy to vote but looking at how NYC’s Mayor, Virginia’s Govenor and Seattle’s Mayor have fulfilled their campaign promises I surly think tho voters who elected them must now regret their choices.


4 posted on 09/22/2026 12:22:56 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: JeepersFreepers

This same “pastor” claimed that Talafreako is just lying to appear moderate and that he will go back to his crazy positions once the election is over.

As if we didn’t already know that. The Left lies. The Left breaks laws they don’t like.


5 posted on 09/22/2026 12:23:00 PM PDT by Antoninus (Confusion and disorder to the Left.)
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To: JeepersFreepers

“Christian who hates Christianity.”

So, he hates Christ. That won’t work out well for him later.


6 posted on 09/22/2026 12:23:59 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: JeepersFreepers

I believe Talirico is just another Democrat who will tell whatever lies he thinks will get him elected but has no intention of ever fulfilling the promises he makes. I can’t figure out if it’s the voters don’t care or are to lazy to vote but looking at how NYC’s Mayor, Virginia’s Govenor and Seattle’s Mayor have fulfilled their campaign promises I surly think tho voters who elected them must now regret their choices.


7 posted on 09/22/2026 12:24:40 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: JeepersFreepers

He is as “Christian” as Jim Jones.


8 posted on 09/22/2026 12:25:41 PM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: JeepersFreepers

“...uses gender-neutral language.”

Here is some neutral language for you, f__k ya’ll.


9 posted on 09/22/2026 12:26:00 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

AND-—WHOSE SOC SEC NUMBER HAS HE BEEN USING???

OR DID NO PAYROLL INFO EVER GET FILED??????????

SEEMS LIKE THERE IS ALOT OF UNDER THE TABLE STUFF GOING ON HERE..


10 posted on 09/22/2026 12:34:02 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: JeepersFreepers

WOW. Thanks for posting.


11 posted on 09/22/2026 12:34:31 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: JeepersFreepers
The Presbyterian Church (USA) has been overrun by liberals for a century. in 1924, over one thousand ministers of a predecessor denomination signed the Auburn Affirmation, which stated that ministers should not be held to such core Christian doctrines such as Biblical inerrancy, the Virgin Birth and the deity of Jesus, substitutionary atonement, the bodily resurrection of Jesus, and the authenticity of the miracles described in the Gospels. Note that we are not talking about Calvinism, but doctrines common to all professing Christians. Not only were the signers of the Auburn Affirmation not disciplined, but they took control of the denomination's top offices. By 1935, the national organization was disciplining prominent conservatives.

There have been several spinoffs from the main body of Presbyterians from the 1930s onward, the largest of which is the Presbyterian Church of America, which is conservative theologically. But the Presbyterian Church (USA) is extremely liberal and arguably not Christian at all at the national level.

12 posted on 09/22/2026 12:35:34 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: ridesthemiles

And nobody will see a day in jail. They basically confessed so prosecute them.


13 posted on 09/22/2026 12:39:50 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: JeepersFreepers

Someone please tell me that Talarico is beyond Paxton by at least 5 points at this stage. I just can’t believe he has a real shot of winning the TX Senator seat.


14 posted on 09/22/2026 12:40:01 PM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: JeepersFreepers

Looks like Texas is going to elect this guy. What happened to Texas?


15 posted on 09/22/2026 12:40:31 PM PDT by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: Wallace T.

The Methodist Church isn’t any better, especially the United Methodist Church.


16 posted on 09/22/2026 12:42:12 PM PDT by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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To: JeepersFreepers
(“We’re not a belief-based church.")

Yeah, we kinda noticed that about you Democrats...now that you mentioned it...


17 posted on 09/22/2026 12:45:20 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They Did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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(We don’t have a lot of people who are religious here,” said Rev. Carol Johnson.)

Okay, that makes perfect sense... NOT

"Reverend" BUT you DON'T have a lot of religious people??

So then you guys are actually a Democrat PAC operating under the guise of "Religion" as a "church"?

The Devil you say...


18 posted on 09/22/2026 12:52:51 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They Did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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. . .core Christian doctrines such as Biblical inerrancy, the Virgin Birth and the deity of Jesus, substitutionary atonement, the bodily resurrection of Jesus, and the authenticity of the miracles described in the Gospels.

Great summary of the essential doctrines of Christianity. Thank you for the knowledgeable explanation. It is good to know that there are conservative, fundamental Presbyterian Churches that have separated from the Presbyterian Church (USA).

19 posted on 09/22/2026 1:32:54 PM PDT by JeepersFreepers (The heart of the wise inclines to the right but the heart of the fool to the left. (Eccl 10:2 NIV))
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To: j.havenfarm

Pronto.


20 posted on 09/22/2026 1:40:23 PM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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