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The Rise, Reign, and Fall of American Coal
MSN.com ^ | 10/21/2025 | Erik Loomis

Posted on 10/21/2025 12:34:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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Never mind that modern coal plants scrub the pollutants from the effluent, or that China and India are building a coal plant a week without the inconvenience of scrubbers, or that mining for battery components is more environmentally destructive than coal ever was.
1 posted on 10/21/2025 12:34:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I have seen studies recently that removing the smoke from the air from burning coal is what caused temperatures to rise.


2 posted on 10/21/2025 12:37:05 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Perhaps we should burn dung, after all MSN produces it in such great quantities.
Free energy for all, from a green source.
3 posted on 10/21/2025 12:37:37 PM PDT by Waverunner (Torah! Torah! Torah! my favorite IDF radio code.)
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Perhaps we should burn dung, after all MSN produces it in such great quantities. Free energy for all, from a green source.


4 posted on 10/21/2025 12:40:16 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Je suis Charlie Kirk.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Look at it from a realistic point that is a fact. CO2 feeds plants and in turn plants exhale O2 which fuels humans and animals. Strange how that works especially when humans are about 20% carbon to begin with.


5 posted on 10/21/2025 12:46:09 PM PDT by Slingwing
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When a volcano blows doesn’t that burn more coal than engines?


6 posted on 10/21/2025 12:50:33 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I argue, while coal was important, petroleum has been far, far more important than coal.


7 posted on 10/21/2025 12:51:47 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

...Grande Staircase Escalante


8 posted on 10/21/2025 12:52:56 PM PDT by Z28.310 (Overthinkers Annonymous suggestion; "Do not comply with others". ..especially NPD/BPD's)
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Before we burned coal, we burned wood. Is that better?

What drives Trump’s politics is nostalgia for the age of coal

It is NOT "nostalgia". Red China is building more coal plants than it ever had. Are the Red Chinese also "nostalgic" for the era of American coal?

Coal is cheap joules, BTUs, Calories . . . ENERGY.

The number of hard working miners who have died from it is MUCH less in men or man-years than the number of unemployed who are dying from meth and fentanyl because of their situation. We have a LOT of it. Coal works.
9 posted on 10/21/2025 12:54:35 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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...Grande Staircase Escalante

Love Scenic Byway 12

10 posted on 10/21/2025 12:56:13 PM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My goodness!
This has to be the worst stinking garbage bag of pure propaganda the world has ever had to endure...


11 posted on 10/21/2025 12:57:43 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is rabble-rising Sam Adams now that we need him? Is his name Trump, now?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So, build more Nukes.


12 posted on 10/21/2025 12:58:54 PM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

China apparently still has coal seam wild fires that produce as much CO2 as all of the USA’s light duty vehicle fleet.


13 posted on 10/21/2025 1:00:59 PM PDT by Paladin2 (YMMV)
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Can’t beat distilled petroleum products for portable energy storage.


14 posted on 10/21/2025 1:29:01 PM PDT by dagunk
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**Grande Staircase Escalante**

There are huge coal fields in that area Kaiparowits Plateau, Utah, and there was plans 55 years ago to build mine-mouth plants in the area. Then it was shut down. Bill Clinton declared the area THE BEAR’S EARS NATIONAL MONUMENT and killed all those plans.
Obama tried to shut our plant down but it was so economic that our company built UN-NEEDED SCRUBBERS due to the low sulfur coal, to remove that last 2% of sulfur. It is still running but now has a 100 ft high mountain of scrubber waste where there was none for 40 years.
Sadly Page AZ and Farmington NM have destroyed their power plants.


15 posted on 10/21/2025 1:50:48 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( REOPEN THE MENTAL HOSPITALS CLOSED IN THE 1970S!)
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Sure, as long as you ignore the production of steel.


16 posted on 10/21/2025 1:59:45 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Dr. Sivana

I come from a very poor coal mining family, My dad was born in Rich Hill. Missouri., Just a little crossroads with, apparently, coal to mine. That’s what my grandfather did.

Dad wasn’t interested and left at 15, went to Kansas City and got a job at a Little restaurant called B/G for Buck and Gage, two men who founded it. Several years later, my dad became President of BG foods and opened restaurants from NYC to San Francisco and LA. I grew up in a Chicago suburb ranked as 7th wealthiest in the US.

My dad always said you didn’t have to work hard if you worked smart.


17 posted on 10/21/2025 2:24:31 PM PDT by Veto! (Trump is Superman)
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My dad always said you didn’t have to work hard if you worked smart.

Absolutely, and I am glad that your father lived in a society where his talent, hard work, and initiative were rewarded.

Not everyone has the traits to "work smart" in a way that gets him ahead. I have brains, and had sufficient education, and have done at times some really good work. It never translated into a lot of money (though more than coal mining). But if you want to use your physical skills to do the tough work of mining, in order to stay near family, or whatever, it is honorable. A young man who may not be interested in college may go up the the oil patches in Alaska as a rough neck, and work hard for a couple of years and make good money. The world needs energy, and we should pay people who work hard to help us get it.
18 posted on 10/21/2025 2:40:31 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Mine those mountains for rare earths.🤔


19 posted on 10/21/2025 3:11:17 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Consider the corn ethanol boondoggle. Those “green” ethanol plants are belching CO2 from the fermentation of corn that another green scam is being proposed to collect this CO2 and send it by pipeline across several states to be injected deep into the ground in North Dakota.


20 posted on 10/21/2025 8:39:06 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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