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Germany's Merz tells BBC Europe was free-riding on US
BBC ^ | 18th July 2025 | Paul Kirby

Posted on 07/18/2025 1:42:14 AM PDT by Cronos

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"British and German firms already collaborate in making products such as Typhoon Eurofighter jets and Boxer armoured vehicles, and the two governments have agreed to launch joint export campaigns that Downing Street believes could attract billions of pounds. "
1 posted on 07/18/2025 1:42:14 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

No s**t, buckwheat.

CC


2 posted on 07/18/2025 1:44:16 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (*This is a test of the emergency tagline system. This is only a test*)
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To: Cronos

We are going to regret re arming the Europeans.

However, we desperately need the revenues from arms sales to re build the damage Obama and Biden did to our military. .


3 posted on 07/18/2025 2:01:45 AM PDT by rdcbn1 (TV )
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To: Cronos

>”We are seeing a big threat, and the threat is Russia. And this threat is not only on Ukraine. It’s on our peace, on our freedom, on the political order of Europe,

I am all for peace. I am all for freedom.

The political order of Europe does not seem to be for freedom, however.

We see suppression of freedom of speech regularly, and suppression of political parties with huge popular appeal. Why are we defending such via NATO?


4 posted on 07/18/2025 2:10:39 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Cronos

Like we didn’t know this already?


5 posted on 07/18/2025 2:11:15 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF ISR pilot. Both bitten by the aviation bug)
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To: Cronos
Poland also

BIG three (Germany, France, and UK) have big plans to deploy troops to Ukraine via air, sea, and land. pic.twitter.com/hjdwbj8foS— Alex Christoforou (@AXChristoforou) July 18, 2025


6 posted on 07/18/2025 3:13:34 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: Cronos

Whatever gave you that idea?


7 posted on 07/18/2025 3:47:45 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Celtic Conservative

Fred Mertz will come out next week and say Germany should repatriate all those refugees…..


8 posted on 07/18/2025 3:48:03 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable anima)
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To: Mark17

This is a modified limited hangout.


9 posted on 07/18/2025 3:49:22 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: FreedomPoster

Excellent comment.


10 posted on 07/18/2025 3:49:36 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: JonPreston

Riiiiight.

But no country in Western Europe has the money to do this.

And none is reinstituting conscription.

And Europe has been violating the energy sanctions from the start.

Can’t be too skeered of the Rooskies, can they...


11 posted on 07/18/2025 3:51:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: Cronos

We need western EU to give up nuclear weapon because in a few decades they will be muslin.


12 posted on 07/18/2025 3:52:13 AM PDT by central_va (The I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Cronos

More dividends from Trump’s perfect meeting with Merz at the White House.


13 posted on 07/18/2025 4:26:32 AM PDT by montag813
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To: JonPreston

Considering what Europe is CLEARLY prioritizing (see below), any promises made regarding building up of their militaries are empty, and that is a good thing!

EUROPEAN PRIORITIES
1. Mass Immigration of uneducated/unskilled people, for the purpose of population replacement.
2. Net Zero carbon emissions, which will set their economies back to 19th century levels.
3. Trying to keep anything that looks like a government-run healthcare system, considering their aging European population and their huge number of immigrants pressing the system to its breaking point.

So, little room for starting another war against Russia, other than their big words.


14 posted on 07/18/2025 4:45:45 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Celtic Conservative

Ya think?!!!!!


15 posted on 07/18/2025 5:04:58 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp)
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To: Cronos

Europe picked a fight with Russia and wanted us to take up the fight and we didn’t.


16 posted on 07/18/2025 5:08:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If Hitler were alive today and criticized Trump, would he still be Hitler?)
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Russia is suffering a demographic crisis even worse than Germany + France + United Kingdom. But they aren't rushing to import rapeugees.

Why do you suppose that is?

Just for reference, Russia has a GDP of 2.076 trillion US$ and a population of 146.1 million. The three named European powers have a combined GDP of 15.113 trillion US$ and population of 220.5 million.

17 posted on 07/18/2025 5:19:19 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: rdcbn1

Yeah, we’re going to ship out so much of our equipment we’ll probably end up customers of the German/UK joint program. Not a good deal for us at all. (Unless you specifically are an arms dealer.)


18 posted on 07/18/2025 5:22:34 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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"British and German firms already collaborate in making products such as Typhoon Eurofighter jets and Boxer armoured vehicles, and the two governments have agreed to launch joint export campaigns that Downing Street believes could attract billions of pounds. "

He's called 'Black Rock' Mertz for a reason.

19 posted on 07/18/2025 5:26:02 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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“Russia is suffering a demographic crisis even worse than Germany + France + United Kingdom. But they aren’t rushing to import rapeugees.

Why do you suppose that is? Men run the country.

“Just for reference, Russia has a GDP of 2.076 trillion US$ and a population of 146.1 million. The three named European powers have a combined GDP of 15.113 trillion US$ and population of 220.5 million.”

...and yet Russia EASILY outproduces Europe in military hardware production, even given the past 3 years to try to catch up. And Russia also outproduces the ENTIRE WEST in hardware production for items used in Ukraine (and probably elsewhere, but I don’t have enough info on that).

Perhaps GNP shouldn’t be inflated by things like government handouts to invaders, gay studies classes, solar panels and offshore wind farms (and lawyers for the US). Perhaps there are other ways to measure GNP that should exclude non-productive (and, in the case of energy and invaders, counterproductive) activities that should be used, at least in the assessment as to whether it’s smart to start a war against another country.


20 posted on 07/18/2025 5:28:09 AM PDT by BobL
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