Judge orders Trump administration to stop immigration arrests in Southern California without probable cause

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[Vaduz]

Without probable cause

Yep he has his I R A judge badge on.

[M. Thatcher]

District Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong
I wonder if he is an ILLEGAL!!

Not that it matters, but Judge Frimpong is a she.

[thefactor]

"they have reasonable suspicion that others in the facility are also illegal, so they investigate a little"

LOL! I actually did laugh at this. Thank you for the chuckle. You just invented reasonable suspicion because someone is present at a location where an illegal is present. Wow. You just want to shred the Constitution, huh? I sincerely hope you are drunk.

So they "investigate a little." LOL! I love that line.

The truth is, being present in the same facility as a known illegal criminal immigrant does NOT constitute reasonable suspicion. Anyone else there is free to not answer questions and simply walk away from law enforcement.

You are truly un-American if you believe what you've written. And I would gladly type out STFU but I respect some of the rules around here.

[thefactor]

Reasonable suspicion can mean detaining someone, but you cannot invent reasonable suspicion. Which is what you are trying to do.

[bobbo666]

F@$@#$ YOu! SCOTUS gave the go-ahead and told all you arsehole judges to quit with the injunctions.

Worried about legal issues, nonetheless? Then, declare martial law on Southern CaCaLand. Put it under total control of the Feds. Want even the commie trash to support you ? Step in and hand out re-building permits on houses in PacficPalisades, etc.
By the end of summer southern CaCaLand will be liveable again.

[Bon of Babble]

"Judge" Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong, the daughter of Ghanaian immigrants, is a Biden apointee:

Response from Bill Essayli, United States Attorney for the Central District of California:

"We strongly disagree with the allegations in the lawsuit and maintain that our agents have never detained individuals without proper legal justification. Our federal agents will continue to enforce the law and abide by the U.S. Constitution."

[delchiante]

Best practice for these innocent Americans is to stop hanging out with illegals.

Because you might get caught up in the declared invasion net for no fault of your own except that you like to hang around with invaders.

Choose your amigos wisely

[Political Junkie Too]

I think what is likely to happen is that ICE will show up with a valid warrant and then the word would get out and a violent crowd will form and start attacking ICE, like they've been doing.

Once the crowd starts attacking ICE, they are free to start arresting others in the crowd. The probable cause to arrest was the riot itself. Once others are arrested, ICE is free to investigate their immigration status.

This is how ICE can get around the judge's ruling. Wait for the crowd to get violent, and then make additional arrests. Maybe this will stop the crowds from rioting, if they believe that their own actions are freeing ICE from the judge's ruling.

-PJ

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Reasonable suspicion can mean detaining someone, but you cannot invent reasonable suspicion.

Saying the word "Immigración" doesn't invent anything, Counselor.

[vpintheak]

They are illegal aliens. Probable cause complete, commie.

[Labyrinthos]

Who is the Judge? (I refuse to support CNN by clicking the link to its website.)

[L.A.Justice]

Oh so you’re just unaware of the case. Allow me to clarify what happening. ICE has a warrant for a person. They find that person and have PC to arrest them. All well and good. But then, ICE detains other people in the vicinity with no reasonable suspicion of them committing any crime. That is not allowed. You cannot detain someone without reasonable suspicion. And you cannot arrest them without probable cause.

I did watch my local Los Angeles TV news last night...ACLU submitted some video clip as part of the legal filing...It was some ICE operation in Montebello, CA...It showed some ICE agents interrogating some Hispanic guy...The story was that he owned some business nearby and came out to see what is going on...No, he was not an illegal alien...That clip might influenced this federal judge...

I do not think that this federal judge is stopping ICE from arresting illegal aliens with warrants...It would be really silly if ICE were not allowed to arrest anyone even with a warrant...

Let's how this case works out...I am sure that Justice Department will be appealing...

[TigersEye]

They only need to have "reasonable suspicion".

I wonder if waving a Mexican flag or throwing rocks at ICE agents would qualify?

[central_va]

When they start to run is that probable cause?

[Go Gordon]

I wonder if waving a Mexican flag or throwing rocks at ICE agents would qualify?

Yep, even inspector Clouseau would figure that one out.

[Jonny7797]

who says they’re not already doing that?

[central_va]

So what? Deport them all.

[TigersEye]

Still questionable then if a judge would.

[Eleutheria5]

Judgy-wudgy blinding justice.

[GaltAdonis]

Breaking the law blatantly and openly is no longer considered ‘probable cause’ apparently.

It’s the insanity and leftist brain death that is the source of this stupidity.
If this continues we will be living in a violent anarchy. And it won’t be any fun at all.