Posted on 04/20/2025 3:53:33 PM PDT by Libloather
I’d have these planes double checked for sabotage.
China is developing, and has domestic state-run airline orders for, its own local airliner.
Its only a matter of time before China drops Boeing and Airbus completely anyway.
Airlines are just another item in a 40 year-long list from autos to seeds to computer chips - that the CCP intends to produce itself. The pattern is, China first buys from the west, gains foreign technology through promise of “big market,” steals and then develops and refines its own. They launch of few “local heroes” who then eventually come to market.
Foreign companies should be very clear on this process and the end-game before they sign up to play in the china market.
What’s the restocking fee?
They won’t be needing them without our trade imbalance anyway, and someone else will pick up the slack in a free market system
Sure, they will eventually build their own planes. But they will be shite, as quality is something the Chinese don’t seem particularly concerned about. China fakes everything
CC
Back in 1996, I warned Clateo Castellini of Becton Dickinson that this would be what the Chinese would do if he took production there. He replied, "We just can't ignore that size of market."
BD was a great manufacturer. Fools, all of them.
And, watch em burn and crash. No one will buy THEM from China. This is a huge advantage if Boeing had any sense to reverse engineer everything, get them cleaned, and zero software from these a@@holes.
Resale immediate, customers lining up. the real story is Airbus. The ready available planes China is dropping will cost them the whole ball game. Stupid arrogant people who think cleverness and deceit is perfectly OK. It isn’t.
Boeing jet intended for China’s Xiamen Airlines
“Made in Japan” used to be a derogatory statement. Quality workmanship is not necessarily tied to country of origin. In fact it stands on its own merits, provided accurate judgement is applied.
Once you fly it off the lot it loses 50% of its value.
Once you return it you’ll want to buy it again a hour later.
Agree
The Japanese embraced Deming.
The Chinese have no idea of how to operate like that.
In no way is that a fair comnparison.
For the time being. Japan changed. China may. History takes strange turns.
China is actively waging war against the USA.
Hunter Bidens daddy was happy to look the other way for reasons we can only guess about currently.
Japan was never COMMUNIST. China began as a communist regime with Mao Tse Dung.
Different people, different traits. My Japanese friends were amazing and honorable. I do not trust any Chinese as far as I can throw them.
(737 Max)
I wouldn’t want these either
But no sympathy for China though
Gordon Chang made a good point last week. He explained that Boeing should have little trouble finding other customers for their planes. Boeing already has a backlog of orders. For every plane the Chinese cancel, other airliners in the queue will essentially have the option of moving up and receiving their order sooner.
He also responded to the argument that Boeing will lose business to Airbus. He pointed out that it’s not that simple. Neither Boeing nor Airbus have unlimited production capacity. Both companies already have backlogs on their orders.
Airbus can’t easily absorb the new business from China. China will either have to wait, or if they’re given priority, the delivery times for its other customers will have to increase, which will cause many of them to switch to Boeing.
In essence, it’s a game of musical chairs. The production capacity for the two industry players is fixed, at least for the medium term. Neither Boeing nor Airbus can drastically increase production on a dime. So for the time being, Boeing and Airbus will essentially split the market between the two of them, based on their current production capacities.
So the ChiComs have learned to make cheap knock-offs of the 737.
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