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“In the fight for his life”: Defense says Caysen Allison acted in self-defense when he fatally stabbed Joe Ramirez at Belton High
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Posted on 04/15/2025 5:08:28 AM PDT by TigerClaws

BELTON, Texas (KWTX) - The highly-anticipated trial of Caysen Allison, 21, charged with murder in the killing of Joe Ramirez at Belton High School back in May 2022, began on April 14, 2025, in a 146th District Court packed with families, friends, witnesses and many others who have been waiting three years to learn Allison’s fate.

EDITOR’S NOTE: Some of the details mentioned below could be graphic to some readers.

Allison has been out on bond since July of 2022 after a judge dropped his $1-million bond down to $175,000. He has been on house arrest ever since.

An arrest affidavit alleges Allison waived his rights against self incrimination and admitted to detectives he fatally stabbed Jose Luis Ramirez Jr., 18, during a fight in a school restroom.

State prosecutors on Monday told the jury Allison intentionally cut and stabbed Ramirez. The defense, however, implied its client acted in self-defense.

Allison “was in the fight for his life when he was jumped by five friends,” Defense Attorney Zachary Boyd told the jury.

The jury also heard from five state witnesses, including a 911 record custodian, the Belton ISD Director of Safety and Security, two teachers who witnessed the aftermath of the stabbing and the school nurse.

Prosecutors also played five 911 calls placed by two staff members, two students and a parent. In one of the calls, a girl identified Allison, claiming she saw him running through the parking lot with a bloody nose.

Jurors also watched security footage from several cameras showing Ramirez and three others walking into a restroom. Allison and another boy walk in shortly thereafter.

Five boys, including Ramirez, then ran out of the restroom and split up. Allison is seen running out of the restroom shortly thereafter.

Jurors also watched footage of Ramirez running down the main hallway, bleeding onto the floor and then collapsing. Blood immediately began to pool as teachers and staff surrounded him.

Many of Ramirez’s friends and relatives were in tears as they watched the footage.

One witness, the first to render aid to Ramirez, testified that the victim’s “breathing was rapid, shallow and appeared as if he had a punctured lung.”

The school nurse said they gasped when she cut open Ramirez’s shirt and they found the gaping wound across his left chest.

The nurse further testified that a student who had been in the bathroom was brought to the nurse’s office and was on the phone when his mother was saying, “Caysen stabbed Joe.”

The trial resumed at 9 a.mn. on April 14.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: belton; beltonhigh; caysenallison; crime; education; joeramirez; joseluisramirezjr; mexico; texas; zacharyboyd
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1 posted on 04/15/2025 5:08:28 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Obviously he hasn’t heard that pulling a knife on someone without a knife isn’t self-defense.

But he now, with all that donated money, has a fancy lawyer, will get a Leftist judge, a venue change, and packed jury, he may well get off.

The wheels of justice sometimes grind very slowly, but they can also grind quite finely, so there is that hope.


2 posted on 04/15/2025 5:15:36 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: TigerClaws

Yeah, and Biden is smart. What a bunch of bull Obama.


3 posted on 04/15/2025 5:15:48 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: All

My mistake-I, as is often the case, did not even read the title...not the right case.

I would have to look at the specifics of this now. My apologies.


4 posted on 04/15/2025 5:17:21 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: rlmorel

oops- me too.


6 posted on 04/15/2025 5:21:03 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: TigerClaws

What these developments in this murder case do is remind everyone that you should do your best in life to avoid “them”.


7 posted on 04/15/2025 5:23:51 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: rlmorel
Obviously he hasn’t heard that pulling a knife on someone without a knife isn’t self-defense.

It can be.

If it really was 5 to 1 and he honestly thought that they intended to kill him it would be self defense.

How they will get to the truth of what happened in that bathroom?

8 posted on 04/15/2025 5:24:54 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: rlmorel

“...The wheels of justice sometimes grind very slowly, but they can also grind quite finely, so there is that hope....”

“The wheels of justice” fell off their axles years ago with the OJ Simson debacle.... BLM and ANTFA took and used those “wheels” to build a skate board. Then, they skated on everyting.... Lawfare has taken the “axles” and beated the livin’ hell outta Trump not to mention the J6ters. There’s no righteous “grinding” anymore....just abuse.


9 posted on 04/15/2025 5:27:27 AM PDT by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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To: TigerClaws

This cretin is going to walk. And the rest of that trash will take that as a license to stab any cracker that looks at them wrong. Nice going you stupid, low IQ minority judge. Y’all sticks together fo sho!


10 posted on 04/15/2025 5:39:27 AM PDT by LouAvul (1 John 2:22: Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist)
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To: TigerClaws

21 year old high school student?


11 posted on 04/15/2025 5:39:49 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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was in the fight for his life when he was jumped by five friends

With friends like that, ....

12 posted on 04/15/2025 5:40:22 AM PDT by grobdriver (The CDC can KMA!)
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To: lgjhn23

On target


13 posted on 04/15/2025 5:41:48 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: bk1000

He was 18 when it happened. This is 3 years later. 18+3=21.


14 posted on 04/15/2025 5:46:35 AM PDT by FamiliarFace (I got my own way of livin' But everything gets done With a southern accent Where I come from. TPetty)
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To: Da Coyote

This is just the next get rich scam with Obama’s DNA on it. BLM2.0.ingredients dumb black youth, corrupt black DEI lawyer and sleepy legal system.


15 posted on 04/15/2025 5:51:15 AM PDT by cnsmom
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To: TigerClaws

Victim at left, perp at right.

16 posted on 04/15/2025 5:52:22 AM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I understand. I admit that stabbing and letting that Texas murderer out really pissed me off.


17 posted on 04/15/2025 5:54:40 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: grobdriver

I thought the same thing.


18 posted on 04/15/2025 5:55:29 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: lgjhn23

Can’t argue with you there.

The “wheels of justice” I refer to is everything after the murder, up to and including the showdown with God, and everything in between including treatment at the hands of man before he stands in final judgement.


19 posted on 04/15/2025 5:57:23 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: Pontiac

> If it really was 5 to 1 and he honestly thought that they intended to kill him it would be self defense. <

Yes, it’s a disparity of force thing. Same as if one young, strong man attacked one older, handicapped man. Disparity of force.

Ultimately a jury will decide.


20 posted on 04/15/2025 5:59:18 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It’s morning in America. Again.)
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