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Zelensky accuses German chancellor of opening ‘Pandora’s box’ with Putin
CNN ^ | Nov 15, 2024 | Reuters

Posted on 11/15/2024 2:35:02 PM PST by McGruff

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has criticized a call between Germany’s chancellor and Russian President Vladimir Putin as opening a “Pandora’s box” that only works to undermine efforts to isolate Russia’s leader.

“This is exactly what Putin has been wanting for a long time: it is extremely important for him to weaken his isolation, Russia’s isolation, and to have normal negotiations that will not end in anything,” Zelensky said about Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s call.

The conversation on Friday was the first time Scholz had spoken with Putin in two years. It comes as the German leader gears up for a snap election and Europe waits to hear US President-elect Donald Trump’s plan for ending the war in Ukraine.

The Kremlin said the conversation had come at Berlin’s request, and that Putin had told Scholz any agreement to end the war in Ukraine must take Russian security interests into account and reflect “new territorial realities.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: germany
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1 posted on 11/15/2024 2:35:02 PM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Chancellor Olaf Scholz Is more afraid of Putin than the Little Global Homo.


2 posted on 11/15/2024 2:38:24 PM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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3 posted on 11/15/2024 2:39:19 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: McGruff

Maybe the Germans don’t want to freeze in one of the coming winters.


4 posted on 11/15/2024 2:42:50 PM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: McGruff
Does not Olaf Scholz know that the great Zelensky is in charge of Germany, all of the the EU, NATO and the Biden-Harris administration?
< s a r c >
5 posted on 11/15/2024 2:53:43 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty; McGruff
Maybe the Germans don’t want to freeze in one of the coming winters.

Habeck wants Germans to freeze [two days ago]:

Germany tells its ports to reject Russian gas cargoes [Die Grünenreichsminister Robert Habeck]

6 posted on 11/15/2024 2:54:16 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“Oaf Doltz”


7 posted on 11/15/2024 2:54:39 PM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: kiryandil

Fools...


8 posted on 11/15/2024 2:56:39 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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--- "Oaf Doltz”

As a side note, the local powers-that-be in Germany are taking after the British and hassling with police some ordinary Germans over simply insulting a politician. Thankfully we are in the US, and can say openly Joe Biden is a "crook" and Kamala Harris a "crook's losing sidekick."

9 posted on 11/15/2024 3:00:14 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: McGruff

It’s a bit of a joke: A relative handful of Western countries keep talking about “isolating” Russia while it maintains or strengthens ties with 90% of the planet. But the NATO clique is dismissive about all the other benighted nations it looks down upon, even as more and more of them become wealthier, more powerful and more populous than their decaying lands.


10 posted on 11/15/2024 3:04:46 PM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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Someday Z is going to disappear and what’s left of Ukraine will celebrate.


11 posted on 11/15/2024 3:12:54 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Black guy upon receiving a MAGA hat: "Murica!")
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To: tennmountainman

The EU Globo Homos, many of them old school Moscow friendly Pinkos like Scholz, love to do business with Putin’s regime. They are US hating peas in a pod.


12 posted on 11/15/2024 3:23:07 PM PST by lodi90
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To: McGruff

The thought of peace scares the crap out of the young Churchill.


13 posted on 11/15/2024 3:30:55 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: McGruff

I wonder if the “Pandora’s Box” he’s talking about is all the dirt he has on Western politicians for the money laundering and other corruption they’ve been using Ukraine to facilitate? If he and Ukraine get cut loose, he may pull all of them down with him.


14 posted on 11/15/2024 3:31:05 PM PST by happyathome
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To: EnderWiggin1970

It’s a bit of a joke: A relative handful of Western countries keep talking about “isolating” Russia…
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The EU worked hard to collapse Russia….BUT the EU is fracturing, and Germany is collapsing…..hilarious, and a good lesson to be learned.

The collective West should be ashamed of what they did.


15 posted on 11/15/2024 3:41:30 PM PST by delta7
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To: Who is John Galt?

The world has seen what St Z and senile Joe did to the EU and the Ukrainian people. Germany’s government and manufacturing collapsed, the EU bled dry and fractured.

Senile Joe’s Project Ukraine will be remembered as his last debacle. RIP Ukraine.


16 posted on 11/15/2024 3:48:34 PM PST by delta7
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Ok, Russia can sit-n-spin, as far as I’m concerned. But the Ukraine is no paragon of virtue either. The ONLY reasons they are getting so much support is a) they OWN the Biden’s and b) the defense contractors LOVE the orders.

Ukraine and Russia need to solve their own damned problems.


17 posted on 11/15/2024 3:53:20 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and don't wish to smile.)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
"Maybe the Germans don’t want to freeze in one of the coming winters."

Germany made their bed many years ago by not getting rid of their dependency on Russian energy products. I've always found it ironic that when Hitler invaded Russia to gain control of their oil fields, he actually ended up making Germany energy dependent on Russia for decades after the war ended.

18 posted on 11/15/2024 4:02:30 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: EnderWiggin1970

Well stated!!

No one is stopping France or whoever from sending troops.

Good luck. Bonne chance! :)


19 posted on 11/15/2024 4:38:29 PM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: McGruff

A bit OT, but is anyone following the riots in Georgia (the country)?

https://apnews.com/article/georgia-russia-abkhazia-protest-parliament-ae03ce7d8335e6a20316a95d0f7acc84


20 posted on 11/15/2024 4:39:25 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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