Neocons in Overdrive to Aid Ukraine Before January

Armstrong Economics ^ | 15 Nov 24 | Martin Armstrong

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Trump is weak on personnel choices

So, what are those weak choices. What I hear so far is praise for this choices, except that of the Attorney General. So, who are the other bad choices?

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Who are those Trump appointed neocons?

Ooops...I didn't answer your question Here you go.....

Waltz, Rubio, and Hegseth, just to name a few high-level and important choices.

[Tench_Coxe]

Between C & D, but D would be pretty funny, as long as Blackrock and others jockeying to profit from the carnage and aftermath end up destitute.

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So, PUtin is yet again going to be rewarded with more Ukraine territory. What’s to stop him from going after more, not only in Ukraine but elsewhere too? If he’s allowed to take/keep what he’s already conquered, he knows that he won’t be stopped in the future. So, where does it end? There are a few smaller countries near Russia ready for the taking, so, which one of those can be sacrificed for the ‘sake of peace’ in Europe.

[Locomotive Breath]

Mouse ... cookie.

Kinda like giving Czechoslovakia to Hitler. It brought “peace in our time” and after that Hitler was happy and didn’t bother us again.

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Waltz, Rubio, and Hegseth, just to name a few high-level and important choices.

So, what makes them neocons? What makes you think that they will continue to support Ukraine and spend our dollars in doing so? What is your definition of 'neocon' that makes those people fit your definition?

[icclearly]

You: What I hear so far is praise for this choices, except that of the Attorney General. So, who are the other bad choices?

Me: Waltz, Rubio, and Hegseth, just to name a few high-level and important choices.

Left to their own devices, these neocons will give us more of the same. That's their record. They will keep us involved in more endless conflicts -- just with an "R" in front of their name.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

---- "Between C & D, but D would be pretty funny, as long as Blackrock and others jockeying to profit from the carnage and aftermath end up destitute."

As to the poll, I agree with the above sentiment. Bravo!

For a couple of years, the pro-war folks have labeled those who did not want to go further in debt to support the Democrat (Obama-Biden-Harris-Cheney-Nuland) plan as Putinistas and the like. As Trump floats ideas for seeing the war end, the "plan" enthusiasts, as above will rage and squirm and name-call.

The clock is ticking VERY FAST

[lurk]

Let’s take our lead from western Europe, how much they care about Ukraine.

[icclearly]

So, what makes them neocons?

Watch what they do....not what they say.

Rubio: Rubio Joins Risch, Republican Colleagues in Introducing Ukraine Security Assistance and Russia Sanctions Legislation

Waltz: War Is Peace

Hegseths: Pete Hegseth’s Stance on Israel and Middle Eastern Politics

While these folks may have positions I otherwise might agree with, they have not seen a conflict that we should not fund.

With $35 trillion in debt, how much longer can we go on saving the world with dollars we don't have? And so far, our record in these conflicts has been massive boondoggles.

When will it end? After we self-destruct like so many others (UK, USSR, Rome, etc.) It's high time we spent those resources on our own and live within our means!

[ronnie raygun]

when we realize and get it into our heads that this ukraine support is a laundry machine that is feeding those who support it, CHECK THIER BANK ACCOUNTS

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Left to their own devices, these neocons will give us more of the same. That's their record. They will keep us involved in more endless conflicts -- just with an "R" in front of their name.

So, anybody that supports aid to Ukraine is a neocon? Is that the definition you prefer?

So, what does it mean 'left to their own devices'? And what kind of record indicates that they are neocons and will act incorrectly, according to your way of thinking? And, 'endless conflicts'? Are there any conflicts that you approve of, or is it ALL conflicts. Mind you that there are conflicts that we do need to engage in, even if we would prefer to stay out of it/them. Should we be involved in the Israel/Iran 'conflict'? How about the China/U.S. 'conflict'? When should the U.S. get involved in any war or conflict? Should we mind our own business no matter what? If Russia or China or Iran get their ways with their neighbors, should we just say 'oh well..., move on'?

[Kazan]

When does this blatant corruption stop?

On January 20th but probably not before then.

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While these folks may have positions I otherwise might agree with, they have not seen a conflict that we should not fund.

The world is not a completely peaceful place. The world is full of hostile countries and hostile warmongers. War is how hostile countries get their way with their neighbors. Was that is not stopped at its origin is a war that tends to expand, and we eventually end up having to be engaged. Those 'neocons' can see the future that we'll have to be engaged in, so, it's always better to stop the evil at its inception than having to engage when it's a much bigger and much more deadly engagement. WWI and WWII are exhibits number one and two. Better to stop them early than when they become much more dangerous. Putin won't be stopped and Xi won't be stopped, and Iran won't be stopped. Myopic thinking is not going to stop evil or hostile tyrannies.

Sometimes, those 'warmongers' that you see are the ones looking to stop the wars.

[JonPreston]

Neocon is your favorite word

Excuse me you Neocon Clown, if you don't know what a Neocon is, why are you posting on a thread titled, "Neocons in Overdrive to Aid Ukraine Before January"??

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why are you posting on a thread titled, "Neocons in Overdrive to Aid Ukraine Before January"??

I'm asking you about what a neocon is, because, YOU have no idea what a neocon is. You define neocon as anybody that disagrees with you. Anybody that supports aid to Ukraine is your simpleton definition of 'neocon'. Your empty brain needs to be filled with sand, and then maybe you'll start to make sense.

[JonPreston]

egads, why so cranky? Are you due for a Booster shot?

At any rate, if you defend the US killing millions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Vietnam, Central, South America, and Africa, all in undeclared war, chances are good you're a Neocon.

[Fledermaus]

Another reason they lost the election

[Bobbyvotes]

Never forget, Trump is the commander in chief. They are all his sub-ordinates. They will follow his orders or get fired.

[Bobbyvotes]

Yes. Trump did not start this war in Ukraine. It was instigated by Biden. United States has national debt more than 120% of GDP. We are broke and in debt to our eyeballs. It is foolish to play world police with credit card borrowing.

The $200+ Billion sent to Ukraine was added to national debt. Because we have no budget surplus for year after year. We have no ability to pay off $200 Billion debt from Ukraine war. Our children and grand children will be paying interest on that debt for ever.