The New York Times: Ignore the Polls

The New York Times ^ | Oct. 13, 2024, 7:00 a.m. ET | Ezra Klein, Opinion Columnist

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Ezra is always good for a laugh or two. Or three.

[Sicon]

Yeah, ignore the polls. It will make it much easier for you to believe it when they tell you Heels Up “won” the popular vote by 15 million “votes”, and “won” the “election”, while winning only 350 counties.

[WeaslesRippedMyFlesh]

The old grey lady is clutching her pearls.

[fhayek]

In the California Senate race, for example, Adam Schiff, a Democrat, is leading Steve Garvey, a Republican, by between 17 and 33 points, depending on the poll.

California really is too far gone, isn't it?

[Jamestown1630]

Polls don’t affect my vote one way or another. I just don’t trust them because I think a lot of people don’t answer them or don’t answer them truthfully; and I think some are designed to deliver a predetermined result - those are not information, they’re propaganda.

[doorgunner69]

Those new yawkers sure are desperate, what with all the hit and hate articles streaming out of there.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "Ignore the Polls"

We've ignored the media polls for decades. Nothing like the NYT coming late to the party. Again.

[j.havenfarm]

Garvey doesn’t have any money. His campaign is so invisible he might as well not be running at all.

[metmom]

They’re getting desperate.

[bigbob]

Ignore the polls because they are made-up propaganda designed to get you to believe they are something else. Treat them like Nigerian princes.

[Political Junkie Too]

I don't think this article is intended for Trump supporters.

The Times is trying to keep the motivation up for Harris supporters.

-PJ

[Phlyer]

. . . calculated the final polling error . . . (emphasis added)

This is the key lie. Check back in history to find out how much the polls changed in the last few days before the election. It's usually several percent in favor of the winner. That's when the pollsters trot out the truth, just so they can claim to be accurate.

Up until then, they're all 'push' polls trying to create an opinion, not just measure it. They lie just as much as they think they can get away with - a number that is just small enough that the jump to the "final" number can be justified by claims of last-minute decisions by the previously undecided.

[Dan in Wichita]

Adam Schiff is one of the most odious individuals who have ever walked the halls of Congress, and yet, he will be the next senator from California.

Garvey will do well to trim his loss to single digits.

[j.havenfarm]

Spot on. Trump could win 40 states and yet barely cause a ripple here. Since the tea party in 2010, conservative waves have broken against the eastern slope of the Sierras.

[Veracious Poet]

[Brooklyn Attitude]

Ignore the polls because the margin or cheating in this election is INFINITE. Tens of millions of illegals partial to the RAT party who let them in and financially supports them (and by coincidence) registered them to vote. Yeah, the 2024 election will be totally legit.

[italianquaker]

Most reasonable people know the race is over , they are trying to save down ballot rats now

[Political Junkie Too]

Here's an interesting point...

RealClearPolitics posted new national polls from ABC, NBC, and CBS today.

• NBC's poll was of Registered Voters and showed the election tied.

• ABC's poll was of Registered Voters and showed the race Harris +2.

• CBS's poll says it is of Likely Voters in the article and charts, but the cross-tabs and methodology say it is of Registered Voters with the same sample size and MOE as the article and charts, and showed the race Harris +3.

CBS, NBC and ABC have no business releasing Registered Voter polls this close to an election unless they are trying to hide something about the likely voters.

-PJ

[Political Junkie Too]

Also, local NBC 6 TV in Miami released a poll in conjunction with Mason-Dixon, also of Registered Voters, showing Trump up +6 in Florida.

I can only imaging what the Likely Voter sample showed, since they are hiding it so close to the election.

-PJ

[Jacquerie]

<>Adam Schiff, a Democrat, is leading Steve Garvey, a Republican, by between 17 and 33 points, depending on the poll.<>

So the Schiff virus will likely infect the Senate.

But this time, the new President will have a DOJ that I hope will be spring-loaded to prosecute congressional criminals.