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California lawmakers urge Newsom to put electric vehicle fleet mandate on hold after I-80 truck fire
KCRA ^ | Aug 20, 2024 | Jonathan Ayestas

Posted on 08/20/2024 7:54:20 PM PDT by artichokegrower

A day after a Tesla Semi caught fire and left Interstate 80 in a chokehold, California lawmakers are calling on Gov. Gavin Newsom to delay a state mandate for big rigs in the state to be all-electric by 2045.

Along the freeway east of Nyack in Placer County, traffic stretch on for miles as crews tried to extinguish the Tesla fire. Another issue at play was the toxic fumes being emitted from the vehicle, the California Highway Patrol said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automotive; burningevs; california; ecars; electric; ev; fire; mandate; trucks
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Imagine if this happened in downtown LA or San Francisco.
1 posted on 08/20/2024 7:54:20 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Or at the Tesla factory itself.


2 posted on 08/20/2024 7:55:50 PM PDT by asinclair (It's too bad there will never be a RICO indictment.)
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To: artichokegrower

Nobody could have seen this coming.

Lol.


3 posted on 08/20/2024 7:56:31 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: artichokegrower

The toxic fumes from the fire, have these fumes even been tested on their impact on people?


4 posted on 08/20/2024 7:57:11 PM PDT by CottonBall (Trump is not a politician or statesmn-he is a founding father, separated frm the others by 250 years)
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To: artichokegrower
"California lawmakers urge [governor] Newsom to put electric vehicle fleet mandate on hold"

Blasphemy

5 posted on 08/20/2024 7:58:58 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: CottonBall

Electric vehicle fires have brought new challenges to fire crews, Cal Fire Battalion Chief Nolan Hale said. Hale said they have to balance first responder and community safety with properly extinguishing the fire and monitoring the environmental impact of the blaze.

“When the electric vehicles start a thermal runaway process within the battery cells, it takes a very significant amount of water to start that cooling effect,” Hale said. “It’s very hard for us to access those.”


6 posted on 08/20/2024 7:59:28 PM PDT by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

I heard they were finding dead coyotes in the hills around toxic burn off, right off Interstate 80.


7 posted on 08/20/2024 7:59:57 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: CottonBall

I think the fumes generated by burning lithium are quite relaxing.


8 posted on 08/20/2024 8:02:14 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: asinclair

The one just east of Reno? Could have sworn there was a fire near San Diego a month or so back. It kept firing back up as the units shorted out. Something like 17 million gallons of water. Anyone? Bueller?


9 posted on 08/20/2024 8:03:31 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: Steely Tom

Smells like chicken.


10 posted on 08/20/2024 8:03:38 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: artichokegrower

Oversized electric golf cart fanbois not pleased.


11 posted on 08/20/2024 8:04:25 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (I don't know what he said at the end of that sentence. i don't think he knows what he said either)
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To: artichokegrower

https://worldstar.com/videos/wshh34m5wXWd3wLFGzeU/things-go-terribly-wrong-after-man-brought-a-faulty-e-bike-battery-into-an-elevator


12 posted on 08/20/2024 8:08:03 PM PDT by Indy Pendance (Jesus can't here soon enough!)
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To: artichokegrower

GodNewsom proclaiming an error? Hell no.He’s going to force gas and electrical through the roof and sell everyone a worthless windmill


13 posted on 08/20/2024 8:10:28 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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EVs have great potential, but the tech shouldn’t be force-fed onto society. Even Musk states a similar POV


14 posted on 08/20/2024 8:18:23 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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To: artichokegrower

Lawmakers have no power?


15 posted on 08/20/2024 8:18:49 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: artichokegrower

I hadn’t thought of that, the cost of training every fire crew across the country about how to deal with these battery fires? Is that even considered in the costs of mandating electric vehicles?

I seem to have more questions than answers today.


16 posted on 08/20/2024 8:35:22 PM PDT by CottonBall (Trump is not a politician or statesmn-he is a founding father, separated frm the others by 250 years)
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Lithium Ion batteries create hydrogen fluoride gas.
"...has anybody tested the fumes..."
Oh, yes, they have
17 posted on 08/20/2024 8:39:08 PM PDT by budj (Combat vet, second of three generations.)
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To: rktman

you might be thinking of this. worth a read:

28 May: KPBS: Otay Mesa battery storage fire stokes residents’ fear of similar facility in North County
By Alexander Nguyen
The incident showed how hard it was to fully extinguish lithium battery fires.

That’s why Eden Valley residents do not want one in their neighborhood. They are actively fighting against the proposed Seguro Battery Storage Project at the site of a former equestrian school...
https://www.kpbs.org/news/public-safety/2024/05/28/otay-mesa-battery-storage-fire-stokes-residents-fear-of-similar-facility-in-north-county


18 posted on 08/20/2024 8:43:32 PM PDT by MAGAthon
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To: budj

“The seriousness of poisoning caused by hydrogen fluoride depends on the amount, route, and length of time of exposure, as well as the age and preexisting medical condition of the person exposed.
Breathing hydrogen fluoride can damage lung tissue and cause swelling and fluid accumulation in the lungs (pulmonary edema).
Skin contact with hydrogen fluoride may cause severe burns that develop after several hours and form skin ulcers.”

yikes!


19 posted on 08/20/2024 8:54:35 PM PDT by CottonBall (Trump is not a politician or statesmn-he is a founding father, separated frm the others by 250 years)
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To: budj
Immediate signs and symptoms of exposure to hydrogen fluoride

Swallowing only a small amount of highly concentrated hydrogen fluoride will affect major internal organs and may be fatal.

Hydrogen fluoride gas, even at low levels, can irritate the eyes, nose, and respiratory tract. Breathing in hydrogen fluoride at high levels or in combination with skin contact can cause death from an irregular heartbeat or from fluid buildup in the lungs.

Even small splashes of high-concentration hydrogen fluoride products on the skin can be fatal. Skin contact with hydrogen fluoride may not cause immediate pain or visible skin damage(signs of exposure).

Often, patients exposed to low concentrations of hydrogen fluoride on the skin do not show effects or experience pain immediately. And, severe pain at the exposure site may be the only symptom for several hours. Visible damage may not appear until 12 to 24 hours after the exposure.

Depending on the concentration of the chemical and the length of time of exposure, skin contact with hydrogen fluoride may cause severe pain at the point of contact; a rash; and deep, slow-healing burns. Severe pain can occur even if no burns can be seen.

Showing these signs and symptoms does not necessarily mean that a person has been exposed to hydrogen fluoride. Other chemicals also can cause these effects.

Exposure to hydrogen fluoride can result in severe electrolyte problems.

Long-term health effects of acute exposure to hydrogen fluoride

People who survive after being severely injured by breathing in hydrogen fluoride may suffer lingering chronic lung disease.

Skin damage caused by concentrated hydrogen fluoride may take a long time to heal and may result in severe scarring. Fingertip injuries from hydrogen fluoride may result in persistent pain, bone loss, and injury to the nail bed. Eye exposure to hydrogen fluoride may cause prolonged or permanent visual defects, blindness, or total destruction of the eye.

Swallowing hydrogen fluoride can damage the esophagus and stomach. The damage may progress for several weeks, resulting in gradual and lingering narrowing of the esophagus.

Yikes, yikes and more yikes! Glad I am moving back to Wyoming which is the last place to face this sort of thing!

20 posted on 08/20/2024 9:04:40 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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