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To: woodpusher; marcusmaximus; USA-FRANCE; UMCRevMom@aol.com
woodpusher: "I see that when your irrelevant wall of text is refuted, you still post another irrelevant wall of propaganda, adorned with irrelevant images to give it extra imaginary authority."

But you refuted nothing, and I answered every pro-Russian propaganda lie you posted with facts and logic.
And, based on your past behaviors on Free Republic, I was expecting more from you than just pathetic whining about an alleged "wall of text".

woodpusher: "Onje with the intellectual power of Joe Biden could see that Ukraine has not one ship much less a navy, it has no operational air force, no operational air defese outside of Kiev, and its trops are being slaughtered."

Ukrainian surface & submersible ROVs:

OK, so let's Fisk your claims item by item:

  1. "Ukraine has not one ship much less a navy"

    Ukraine certainly has no aircraft carriers or destroyers.
    But they do have a number of smaller ships & boats, including:

    1. 33 Patrol boats from 10 to 150 tons
    2. 3 Landing craft from 50 to 1,200 tons
    3. 3 Mine Warfare from 600 to 2,100 tons
    4. 38 Supply & misc. from from 50 to 3,200 tons
    5. 91 RIBs around 3 tons
    6. 16 ROVs, surface and submersible

      184 naval craft of all types

      US Perry class Frigates offered to Ukraine:

      New ships in process or construction:

    7. 6 Frigates
    8. 10 Corvettes
    9. 20 Patrol boats
    10. 2 Mine Warfare
    11. dozens of ROVs
    12. hundreds of drones

      =38 ships plus unknown numbers of ROVs and drones.

  2. "it has no operational air force, no operational air defese outside of Kiev..."

    Ukraine's air force consists of:

    1. 112 Old Soviet MIGs and SUs
    2. 40 Old Soviet helicopters
    3. 3 Antonov transports
    4. 10 US F-16s

      =165 Ukraine air force aircraft

    Ukraine's air defenses consist of:

    1. 273 Old Soviet SAM sites
    2. 6 German SAM sites
    3. 14 US SAM sites
    4. 3 Italian SAM sites

      =296 total Ukraine SAM facilities.

  3. "...and its trops are being slaughtered."

    According to the estimates we have:

    • 2023 Russian losses averaged three to every one Ukrainian.

    • 2024 Russian losses have averaged six to every one Ukrainian.

    • As of today, total Russian military casualties are nearly 600,000.

    Such numbers reflect Russian "Meat Wave" assaults with Ukrainians defending from fortified positions and slowly giving up ground.
    So, Russians are literally slaughtering themselves -- I'd call that "Ukraine assisted suicide" or Russian "suicide by Uke".

woodpusher: "On a hopeful note Ukraine has a few F-16s parked as far away as possible from Russia, near Odesa.
And Lindsay Graham announced that Ukraine is looking for former F-16 pilots to fly the planes."

US F-16s from Denmark and the Netherlands are still an unknown factor.
It seems highly unlikely that a small number could have a major effect, so we can only wait and see...

woodpusher: "All front lines are collapsing."

It's true that for the past year Ukraine has been giving up ground at the rate of roughly one square mile per day and a cost to Russians of 1,000 casualties plus over 100 Russian vehicles lost per day.
At the current rate, it will take Russians over 10 years and 3.6 million casualties, just to take the rest of Dontesk, much less all of Ukraine!

woodpusher: "Ukraine does not control any part of part of Kursk oblast.
Rather they are stuck there, running arond like cockroaches, trying to avoid the exterminator."

The fog of war over Kursk is still too thick to know what's really going on there, however, Ukrainians say they now occupy roughly 400 square miles, which is equivalent to the total territory of Ukraine taken by Russians in the past year, at a cost to Russians of over 200,000 casualties.

381 posted on 08/15/2024 9:04:45 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

Thank you for update :)


383 posted on 08/15/2024 5:11:13 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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To: BroJoeK

VIDEO
Russian Defenses COLLAPSE In Kursk, HUGE FIRES In Moscow | Breaking News With The Enforcer
The Enforcer
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8-15-2024 3:30 p.m. EDT
Minutes 13:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3YlRD1Cd-o

“Russian defenses have collapsed in Kursk near Kromskie Bykie, with Ukrainian forces advancing forward, and capturing a coveted T-90M in the process. Large amounts of prisoners were taken, with the path cleared towards Lgov.

Massive fires began to break out throughout Moscow, possibly Ukrainian special forces or partisans creating Chaos in the Capitol city.

A Russian TU-22M3 bomber broke up over Irkutsk, once again highlighting the ailing condition of Russia’s bomber fleet.

Belarus threatens Nuclear War if any invasion was to happen into their country, then pleading for peace in the Ukraine war.”


384 posted on 08/15/2024 5:32:19 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God 's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸)
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