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‘Furious battles are underway’: Kursk residents call on Putin for help after Ukrainian incursion
CNN ^ | August 8, 2024 | Daria Tarasova, Jim Sciutto, Allegra Goodwin, Tim Lister, and Ivana Kottasová

Posted on 08/08/2024 6:02:00 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

Ukrainian forces are pushing further into the Kursk region of Russia, in a cross-border incursion that surprised even American officials, multiple US and Ukrainian officials tell CNN.

Ukrainian forces are comprised of a mix of Ukrainian regular and special operations units, unlike previous Ukrainian operations inside Russia that often involved undercover units and local sympathizers.

The intention, say US and Ukrainian officials, is multifaceted, in part to disrupt and demoralize Russian forces and in part to divert Russian forces away from other parts of the eastern front.

Russia claimed on Thursday to have halted a Ukrainian incursion into its territory, but later said that some battles are ongoing in the Kursk region. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, units of the “North” group of its forces, together with the Russian Federal Security Service, the FSB, “continue to destroy Ukrainian armed forces formations in the Sudzhensky and Korenevsky districts of the Kursk region, which are directly adjacent to the Russian-Ukrainian border.” CNN cannot independently verify these claims.

Kursk residents, who live in the Sudzhansky District, recorded a video address to Russian President Vladimir Putin on Thursday asking for his help, saying he has been misinformed about the situation on the ground and the Russian Defense Ministry’s statements about things being under control are untrue.

The address was published on a local Telegram channel that is dedicated to covering the latest news out of the town of Sudzha in Kursk region, which has been under Ukrainian attack for several days.

“These lies enable the local residents to die. The Chief of the General staff recently told you that the situation is under control, but today huge furious battles are underway in the Sudzhansky and Korenevsky districts,” one of the residents said.

“Sudzha was attacked, turned into ruins in hours."

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To: MinorityRepublican

—> He didn’t learn from the Wagner march to Moscow last year and fortify the borders.

Russia has a border of almost 14,000 miles.

They know they cannot defend the entire border with 100% protection.

Some attacks will get through. Cost of war.

Ground game goes on.


21 posted on 08/08/2024 6:43:32 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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To: Mr. Lucky
and Kiev will be taken in three days.

Yeah, the guy who said that was a joke. I bet you thought the Russians said that.

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Gen. Milley says Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if Russia decides to invade Ukraine

22 posted on 08/08/2024 6:47:35 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Mariner
All those Ukrainian soldiers will die in Kursk.

You wish.
23 posted on 08/08/2024 6:47:59 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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To: Mr. Lucky

Russia was never after Kiev. They still aren’t.


24 posted on 08/08/2024 6:48:37 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Karl Spooner
Gen. Milley says Kyiv could fall within 72 hours if Russia decides to invade Ukraine.

We had bad intelligence. Or maybe we manipulated the truth because of the MIC? War is good for business.

25 posted on 08/08/2024 6:49:08 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: jerod

He does have nukes.


26 posted on 08/08/2024 6:49:35 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Mr. Lucky

A quote originally attributed to Mark Milley.


27 posted on 08/08/2024 6:50:48 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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To: Mariner

Some posts on Twitter are claiming many of the soldiers are from NATO countries, which wouldn’t be surprising if true.


28 posted on 08/08/2024 6:51:41 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: packagingguy

Mercenaries.


29 posted on 08/08/2024 6:53:03 PM PDT by rfp1234 (E Porcibus Unum)
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To: packagingguy

“Some posts on Twitter are claiming many of the soldiers are from NATO countries”

So they are all trannies, got it


30 posted on 08/08/2024 6:53:42 PM PDT by pigeoninthepark
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To: SaxxonWoods
Ukraine sent a thousand men in. 600 have been eliminated so far

Your source?

31 posted on 08/08/2024 6:54:39 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Ukraine invaded with a CORP comrade, not 1000 men. They are staying.


32 posted on 08/08/2024 7:04:02 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“Ukraine sent a thousand men in. 600 have been eliminated so far.”

Your proof?


33 posted on 08/08/2024 7:05:21 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: Alter Kaker
Ukraine invaded with a CORP comrade, not 1000 men. They are staying.

Your source

34 posted on 08/08/2024 7:09:35 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: dforest; marcusmaximus; Paul R.; Bruce Campbells Chin; PIF; familyop; MercyFlush; tet68; BeauBo; ...

Ukraine ping

[He does have nukes.]


Whether they’re used in Ukraine depends on Biden. If he issues the same threat Nixon issued to Brezhnev, Putin will back off.

https://www.scmp.com/article/714064/nixon-intervention-saved-china-soviet-nuclear-attack

It’s not really conceivable that Biden would give Putin a nuclear blank check in Ukraine, given that Nixon threatened to obliterate Russia over a nuclear attack on China.

On grounds of race and heritage, there’s a lot more binding the US to Ukraine. In 1969, when Nixon threatened the Russians, China was supplying North Vietnam with huge amounts of equipment dwarfing what the US is supplying to Ukraine. This continued until the collapse of South Vietnam in 1975.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_in_the_Vietnam_War#Confronting_U.S._escalation

In other words, China was an enemy of the US, and just the lesser of two evils. And yet Nixon committed the US to Russia’s annihilation, if it nuked China.

It probably pains you greatly that Nixon committed to zapping the Russians over a bunch of mud people. In your concept of reality, he must have been the ultimate neocon. In fact, Nixon was just a realist. A Russia that incorporated China would have increased its land area by 50% and tripled its population. Of course Nixon couldn’t allow the Russians to annex China.

It’s for similar reasons that US policy is to aid Ukraine in repelling Russia’s invasion force. What Putin does in Russia, nobody cares. Any expansion of the already enormous Russian empire, however, was bound to draw a reaction, no matter the party in power.

Note that China was part of Russia’s back yard, and the Russians had wrenched away a chunk of land 3x the size of Ukraine that was formerly part of the Chinese empire earlier on. So it was certainly credible that the Russians had a claim to the whole enchilada.

Furthermore, China was solidly a part of Communist International, and the Russians claimed suzerainty over the entire communist world. What kept Russia out of China was the fear of losses fighting against its gigantic neighbor. Unlike Hungary or Czechoslovakia, a Russian group army or two wouldn’t be sufficient to annex China.

In 1969, this was compounded by Nixon’s nuclear threat. What Russia viewed as its sphere of influence, a regime whose existence was entirely a product of Russian material support, was suddenly its own thing. That’s the thing about empires, even Russia’s. Nothing is forever.


35 posted on 08/08/2024 7:10:50 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: dforest

So he keeps saying... Does he have control of them? I’m guessing ‘no’ would be the answer to that.


36 posted on 08/08/2024 7:11:07 PM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Mariner

Why do we have big blowhards like you annoying people with your pronouncements of exactly what will happen.

You know exactly squat.


37 posted on 08/08/2024 7:18:45 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Williams

Don’t read what I post, and don’t post to me.

That solves your problem asshole.


38 posted on 08/08/2024 7:22:36 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: packagingguy

I don’t believe that.


39 posted on 08/08/2024 7:23:37 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: jerod

That would be a long shot hope, that Putin can be destabilized.
Most likely he’d be replaced by a hard liner.
You’d like to see the army collapse and turn on the war. Highly unlikely, but Russia is a messed up country, as you saw with the Wagner revolt.


40 posted on 08/08/2024 7:25:11 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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