Posted on 07/01/2024 6:33:16 AM PDT by CFW
The Justices issue Opinions in order of reverse seniority. (Example, if the first Opinion announced is written by Gorsuch, that means we will not hear from Jackson, Barrett or Kavanaugh today.) The reverse order is Jackson, Barrett, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, Sotomayor, Kagan, Alito, Thomas, Roberts.
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my prediction is:
A president has absolute immunity for all public actions taken as part of his role as president. This is the easiest part to predict IMO
A president also has effective immunity for any action for which he has the power to pardon himself (basically any federal crime) This is harder to predict with certainty. But my reasoning is, if the court said otherwise, all presidents would simply pardon themselves of all crimes possibly committed while in office before leaving office. Which would “effectively” be the same as having immunity for all federal crimes.
State crimes are another matter though, so a president who murdered his wife for instance, could still be prosecuted for that, because a president cant pardon a state crime.
Should at least postpone any trials until after the election. If he loses, he's doomed.
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I think that maybe the liberal justices might want to find for immunity as much as the conservative ones. If Trump does get in and previous presidents do not have immunity, the game is afoot and bad things might happen to the dems.
The blondes on Fox said Roberts would do the Trump case.
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“The blondes on Fox said Roberts would do the Trump case.”
That’s the assumption from most court watchers. And that Barrett will have the First Amendment cases which will be combined into one Opinion. We will soon see if that is correct.
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Simple solution already available in the Constitution.
For a President to be tried in the court system:
First, the house must deliver articles of impeachment specific to the alleged crimes.
Second, the Senate must then convict on those alleged crimes.
Third, then the President can be tried in the court system.
The first and second steps have not been performed.
The idea that any case involving the Fed is constitutional is just laughable. (Or cryable.)
It would seem this immunity would make Impeachment null and void.
Just mumbling to myself.
I think the decision will contain a surprise.
TexasFreeper2009 wrote: “State crimes are another matter though, so a president who murdered his wife for instance, could still be prosecuted for that, because a president cant pardon a state crime.”
And, if the ‘crime’ is committed on federal property, it remains a federal crime.
As well, there is a type of total immunity that would clearly be dangerous.
That’s what Steiner said, too.
the thing is whether it’s right or wrong, or whether you agree with it or not. In many ways the framers of the constitution gave the president nearly unlimited power, more or less an elected king. The only limitations being the powers expressly given to congress and the courts.
the court may be forced to read between the lines and effectively add to the constitution and say that a president “could” lose immunity if they are removed from office by impeachment.
I am not sure they will go that far though.
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