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It sounds like a Best and Final offer to me.

Ukrainian officials would be wise to take it, because a clear Russian victory will cost them their lives.

1 posted on 06/14/2024 2:24:00 PM PDT by Mariner
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Hah ! Lindsey Graham sees Ukraine as his future earnings , no way can he allow Putin to steal his retirement grease !
2 posted on 06/14/2024 2:29:00 PM PDT by OldHarbor
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Yup, just think how things would calm down if common sense was applied instead of neocon rules.

We will be lucky to live through this....


3 posted on 06/14/2024 2:30:46 PM PDT by Bobalu (I can’t even feign surprise anymore... And I am tired of the 🐂 💩!)
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As Bilken and the DIC whisper in Zelensky’s ear, “I’ll take total annihilation and World War III for ten billion dollars Alex.” Or something like that.


4 posted on 06/14/2024 2:32:41 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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What private assurances are the Ukes getting to be able to publicly dismiss this offer out of hand? What are Bidens handlers telling them?


6 posted on 06/14/2024 2:35:24 PM PDT by desertsolitaire (Perhaps the Great Ape Lawgiver in the series Planet of the Apes was correct in his view of humans?)
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Russia should be allowed to hold on to all of Russia that it held before invading Ukraine.


8 posted on 06/14/2024 2:36:03 PM PDT by JSM_Liberty
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“It sounds like a Best and Final offer to me.”

...and the Western Media has been told to NOT REPORT IT (or least minimize the reporting), as it may drive lots of European men to realize that there is an alternative to being sent into the meat grinder when Ukraine runs out of warm bodies.


9 posted on 06/14/2024 2:37:09 PM PDT by BobL
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That’s pretty much the same as what Russia was saying 28 months ago.


10 posted on 06/14/2024 2:38:00 PM PDT by packagingguy
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Translation: Putin offers to keep trying to destroy Ukraine unless Ukraine gives up and gives in to Putin.


11 posted on 06/14/2024 2:38:29 PM PDT by Wuli
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We’ll stop the war if you surrender.


14 posted on 06/14/2024 2:40:46 PM PDT by JSM_Liberty
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It *IS* absurd!


15 posted on 06/14/2024 2:41:09 PM PDT by Sunsong
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Looks like Putin is putting out the olive branch before he starts his summer offensive.


16 posted on 06/14/2024 2:42:02 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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Putin: We’ll have peace if you give up what I want, I promise. Hitler: After the Sudetenland, I have no furhter territorial ambitions. History alrways repeats itself.


19 posted on 06/14/2024 2:43:05 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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Why should Ukraine be in NATO? They are already getting the benefits from NATO nations( except for ground troops) and they didn’t have to pay a dime for membership.


28 posted on 06/14/2024 2:50:15 PM PDT by kaila
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Typical negotiating posturing.

The initial offer is always more than what will be settled for.

32 posted on 06/14/2024 2:54:29 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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Once Brandon turns 91, his 10-year plan will be fulfilled, and peace will finally come to UKR. UKR also says elections right now are “absurd”, yet we’re ‘protecting’ their democracy - yes, absurd. So at least one side is putting an exit strategery on the table, regardless of absurdity.


34 posted on 06/14/2024 2:56:01 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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Zeepers hardest hit by this.


38 posted on 06/14/2024 3:02:57 PM PDT by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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Ukraine enrolled in Nato should be a non-starter in any conversation.


41 posted on 06/14/2024 3:18:04 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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NATO Expansion: A New Detailed Timeline
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/nato-expansion-new-detailed-timeline


43 posted on 06/14/2024 3:27:58 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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Uke officials are making so much US money by keeping it going that no truce will occur.


44 posted on 06/14/2024 3:28:44 PM PDT by Veto! (FJB Sucks Rocks)
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It was always about NATO and playing footsie with them that made Russia twitchy.


46 posted on 06/14/2024 3:44:19 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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