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Ukraine: Russian Forces Executed Surrendering Ukraine Soldiers
Human Rights Watch ^ | 2 May 2024 | Human Rights Watch

Posted on 05/02/2024 10:05:48 AM PDT by MeganC

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To: Cen-Tejas

Remember, the principal is your pal.


61 posted on 05/02/2024 11:44:45 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: ansel12
I think you might find many nations that would speak rather harshly about us as well. Some of it BS, some of it likely justified in some form or fashion.

But of course, all you read was the headline, because you might find uncomfortable evidence presented that make question what is really going on.

But of course, you know it's nonsense because so many others hold the same conclusion. That's the sign of a real thinker there, yes indeed. /complete utter sarcasm

62 posted on 05/02/2024 11:44:48 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: MeganC

We shouldn’t be involved.


63 posted on 05/02/2024 11:45:51 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: HollyB; MeganC

Zeepers celebrate that.
But if it happens in like kind, it’s something to be angry about.


64 posted on 05/02/2024 11:48:21 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: MeganC

Or propaganda by the Ukrainian government to keep draftees from surrendering.


65 posted on 05/02/2024 11:48:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. - M. Thatcher)
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To: Cen-Tejas; ComputerGuy

There are times when you can’t take prisoners, a LRS team for example, but the rules of war serve a purpose and are best followed, for best long term results.

The Germans used the methods that we frequently see pushed on the internet and in bars, the 10 for 1 retaliations, the scorched earth responses and to strike fear into the heart of the enemy, even the harsh treatment of those who wanted to join them by the huge numbers, everything they did was destructive to their goals of winning the war.


66 posted on 05/02/2024 11:49:26 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

If you’re the only side following ‘the rules of war’, then you’re an idiot.


67 posted on 05/02/2024 11:54:49 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: Robert DeLong

Start reading about the concrete and expensive and even politically costly reactions of dozens of nations to Russia’s invasion, even Japan has launched its biggest military buildup since WWII triggered by Putin.

You aren’t paying attention and think this is just a trivial “distraction” by people and governments who don’t pay attention and are merely distracted.


68 posted on 05/02/2024 11:55:24 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Dogbert41

The Ukie Nazi problem is well known. Azov brigades ( Nazis) with the swastikas and SS tattoos all over have been known to have been executed…. that said, my father ( a WW2 Infantryman) told me stories of the SS soldiers that were captured- very few made it back to HQ for questioning. In fact, many were turned over to the French, a much, much worse fate.

Yes Johnny, the Ukie’s do have a Nazi problem… which is why Putin’s speech stated “ Ukraine will be De-nazified”…. Which we are currently witnessing.


69 posted on 05/02/2024 11:55:29 AM PDT by delta7
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To: MeganC

Around December 1, 2023

Russian shoot 2 Ukraine soldiers who had surrendered:

https://funker530.com/video/nsfw-russians-execute-surrendering-ukrainian-soldiers/


70 posted on 05/02/2024 11:57:33 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: ComputerGuy

It didn’t work for the Germans, what are you talking about?

You implied that you wanted to execute all enemy that came under our control, you think that is more effective than taking prisoners when possible?


71 posted on 05/02/2024 11:57:38 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: HollyB

You were against the French Resistance?


72 posted on 05/02/2024 11:59:55 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

I didn’t imply squat. You inferred something. You tried to apply my personal decision to all wartime scenarios as if taking prisoners is the right thing to do. I have zero compassion for someone who moments ago was trying to kill my friends and me.


73 posted on 05/02/2024 12:04:49 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: ComputerGuy

“”””I let it be known that I wouldn’t waste so much as a single Band-Aid on any NVA. General Sherman was right.””””

If you weren’t implying a policy then fine, it was the second sentence and the context of the post to this article and to the post about executing prisoners that led me to think that you were.


74 posted on 05/02/2024 12:10:41 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: MeganC; Darksheare
Here are some examples of the opposing claims being made:

Videos Appear to Show Ukrainian Troops Shooting Surrendering Russians | WSJ

Video appears to show Ukrainian troops killing captured Russian soldiers

All this really proves it that both sides make the same claims.

Is f I remember correctly, the surrendering Russian soldiers were shot in their legs, but were not killed. That is still a war crime. It doesn't have to be a kill shot.

75 posted on 05/02/2024 12:11:13 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: ansel12

Reread my post and if you have trouble. Reread it again .


76 posted on 05/02/2024 12:13:08 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Dogbert41
"Rules of war...," they make war so much more palatable don't they? I'm sure once they add a few more rules, war will be downright enjoyable!

It takes a special kind of sick f#@k's to think that stuff up...probably from Harvard...

Reminds me of that old episode of Star Trek (A Taste of Armageddon) where a planet had been fighting a war for hundreds of years because they removed the hell and destruction from war.

77 posted on 05/02/2024 12:18:45 PM PDT by Paco
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To: ansel12

Not treating a wounded enemy soldier is in no way an execution. I chose not to risk my life for enemy combatants, that’s all.


78 posted on 05/02/2024 12:19:43 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: ComputerGuy

That makes total sense, but once they are in your hands and the situation under control then it is best for everyone involved to do what is right, I think we see a lot of history showing that.


79 posted on 05/02/2024 12:26:53 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: HollyB

I read your post, the Resistance under Russian occupation is doing what they can, just like in France.


80 posted on 05/02/2024 12:28:37 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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