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To: BigFreakinToad

Traps super chargers max out at 250 kw for every model except for the top end model S or roadsters those are 350kw. During the summer a typical 2500sqft home running AC is using 10kw add in a cloths dryer for another 8kw and an electric cooktop,tvs and refrigerators at 10+kw more. So the accurate number is 25 to 10 times per supercharger bay. The most current I have ever seen my meter report back was with the AC on, the wife doing laundry, me cooking and two large 70” 4Ks on was 165 amps which at 240 splitphase is 39.6 kw 165amps is just over half what the 300 amp main breaker is rated for all new builds have 300 amp service in this area. Our garage also came with two large four prong NEMA 50 240v plugs on each side wall so it’s already EV ready even maxed out with house load we could still pull a solid 100 amps and be under the 300 main breaker rating. Mains are rated for full load all others are 80% continuous duty cycle. So those 50s are actually 40 amp full duty cycle.

I have rented a model 3 it went from 20% to full from midnight when it got plugged in by the time I was ready to use it in the morning took all of thirty seconds of my time as I exited the vehicle for the night. As a second commuter car that model 3 would be ideal as it drives itself in grid lock traffic which is every day for 4+ hours a day in DFW. Even better is a lot of employers offer free charging at work so that is like getting free gas for your commute. My yearly commuting gas bill is $3600 that alone would justify a second commuter car purchase. 106 miles a day round trip 5 to 6 days a week down toll roads each way no less. I’m waiting for tesla to put LiFePO4 cells in the Model 3 LR with 800v @300kw supercharger rates then one with full FSD get bought. 8 years 120,000 miles no questions battery life warranty. I never keep a car past 5 years or 150,000, never have, never will so it’s moot about after the warranty. That car could have ZERO resale value and it would be a positive fiscal policy decision for my needs. the math solidly works out on a cost per mile basis over 120,000 miles total life even with zero retained capex which is false it will always be positive value at 120,000mi a simple Google search for used M3 confirms that. Add in getting free charging at work to the tune of $3600 a year for up to 8 years that’s nearly the purchase price of a model 3 new just in gas cost offsets. Like I said I’m a math guy and the math works solidly for a commuter car in the $25_35,000 range with a 8 year lifetime.


13 posted on 01/19/2024 2:29:51 PM PST by GenXPolymath
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To: GenXPolymath

Do you ever take long trips by car? Do you ever drive in extremely cold weather? Do you live in a possible hurricane evacuation zone? Do you think that your power company has the capacity to have even 20% of the houses running at full demand? Just curious.


15 posted on 01/19/2024 4:40:38 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: GenXPolymath

“free charging at work”

I HATE those arguments. Yes, it is “free” to you. But your company is paying the power bill. That means lower money available for R&D to develop new products, reduced EPS for the company, and lower stock price affecting all of your fellow employees as well as all shareholders who are not getting the “free” electricity.

Your argument is akin to the $7,000 “free” subsidy paid by all taxpayers to buyers of EVs.

There IS NO FREE LUNCH. Somebody pays. You are enjoying the fruits of others’ labors. Enjoy your “free” power.


18 posted on 01/19/2024 5:17:17 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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To: GenXPolymath
I’m waiting for tesla to put LiFePO4 cells in the Model 3 LR

The LFP batteries weigh more, so that why they haven't been used for the long range model. That appears to be the case with other OEMs.

36 posted on 01/21/2024 4:11:05 AM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: GenXPolymath

Fried my brain dude.


42 posted on 01/22/2024 7:00:47 AM PST by BigFreakinToad (Remember the Biden Kitchen Fire of 2004)
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