Posted on 12/10/2023 7:40:10 AM PST by cotton1706
University of Pennsylvania President Elizabeth Magill, and the chairman of the board of trustees, Scott L. Bok, have both resigned after intense pressure from alumni, donors and members of Congress.
Magill was hounded from office after a disastrous performance at a congressional hearing on antisemitism on American college campuses.
At the hearing, New York Rep. Elise Stefanik bored in on Magill's equivocations, trying to elicit a clear response to a question about antisemitism.
“Calling for the genocide of Jews,” Ms. Stefanik asked, “does that constitute bullying or harassment?”
Ms. Magill replied, “If it is directed and severe, pervasive, it is harassment.”
Ms. Stefanik responded, “So the answer is yes.”
Ms. Magill said, “It is a context-dependent decision, congresswoman.”
Ms. Stefanik exclaimed: “That’s your testimony today? Calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context?”
Yes, it was that bad.
Even worse, Mr. Bok tried to defend Magill, claiming the president was "worn down" by her job.
“Worn down by months of relentless external attacks, she was not herself last Tuesday,” he wrote. “Over-prepared and over-lawyered given the hostile forum and high stakes, she provided a legalistic answer to a moral question, and that was wrong. It made for a dreadful 30-second sound bite in what was more than five hours of testimony.”
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This woman worded her answer poorly.
The correct answer is:
The First Amendment’s protection of free speech is extremely powerful. A casual call for genocide of anyone is not some sort of punishable crime — because of the overriding protection of freedom of speech. This is the context of the circumstance. Freedom of speech transcends calls for genocide because there is no immediate translation of such a thing into danger or violence. It’s not yelling fire in a crowded theater. It’s words on a computer screen.
She could have worded things better. She’s losing her career over this and that is an injustice.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
IOW, the First Amendment is there to protect citizens from the government. The reaction to Magill's comments had nothing to do with her free speech rights.
Mossad has a very long list to knock out.
The icing on the cake was Magill’s self-satisified smirk as she was answering the questions.
She could have worded things better. She’s losing her career over this and that is an injustice.
Looks like giving women the right to vote has brought some seriously unpleasant results.
Stop women’s suffrage now! 🤣
/S
Aw, she was worn down? Poor widdle baby.
Begone, bigot!
“Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve never required a lawyer to express an opinion.” Amen.
What makes Bok’s excuse especially silly is that McGill is herself a LAWYER and law professor. What she said is almost certainly her own opinion (i.e., that advocating genocide for Jews is acceptable at UPENN because they “deserve” it) and she lacked the sophistry skills to paper over that with the First Amendment. Stephanik knows how to aim the flashlight at roaches.
To riff on Clemenseau, the lefties have gone from liberalism directly to fascism without passing through humanity.
I suspect whoever is the new campus ‘boss’...
The S-word is Mightier Than the Penn.
Stop highering feminsta activists - would be a good start to clean up this mess.
Magill still retains her tenure teaching position at U of P.
So a loss of face but still available to infect the thinking of the student body.
See my post #20
SHe may still be a professor as long as she is assigned to field work in Syria with ISIS.
I agree.
Or, they’re all just horrible people…
That take seems over-lawyered to the point of losing the thread. This is not about the right to speak, it is about the right to intimidate.
The part of the First Amendment at issue in this situation is the Establishment of a State Religion, not the vagaries of the level of violence inherent in the words themselves.
If there is a government-operated institution policy designed to limit bullying and harassment, and it is applied by said institution to certain relatively mild expressions inherent in one religion and not applied to extreme expressions inherent in another, then it is for all intents and purposes establishment of the moral supremacy of the favored religion.
Or in this case, amoral supremacy.
I agree with you that allowing abhorrent speech is vital to a free society. However, the United States hasn’t had a free society for over 100 years. At this point the battle needs to be forcing the Karens to live under the idiotic rules they force upon others.
SNL tried to mock Republican Elise Stefanik for exposing Ivy League’s softness towards anti-semitism and it did NOT go well for them
https://notthebee.com/article/snl-tried-to-mock-republican-elise-stefanik-for-exposing-ivy-leagues-softness-towards-anti-semitism-and-it-did-not-go-well-for-them/
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