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To: Jonty30
You're a bit more coherent in this last response - but still absolutely wrong: the Progressive Left - the latest label for the Communists/Socialist Worker's Party activists, have subsumed the title "Liberals" as a camouflage for who they really are. They are rabid Marxists, atheists, and they enemy of all that is good and American, period.

But real, actual Liberals are still there and can be reason with - I spend part of each day discussing the issues with three of my six sisters - liberals - and my liberal neighbors and occasionally, newly-met strangers. We differ on abortion, gun control, BLM, DEI, and homosexuality and of course, President Trump but they are all open to reasoning once you get past the first emotional crust.

We are for the most part, all Americans and we all want freedom - except for the previously-mentioned Communists.

Some of you thirst for a shooting war - but only our enemies would win any new Civil War in our own country.

I would bet that none of our fellow Freepers who are using "moral absolutes" and pushing for that war ever experienced the real thing - or they'd know better.

125 posted on 11/20/2023 6:23:32 AM PST by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: Chainmail

The theft of the term liberal has been so successful that the American public equates boots on neck socialism to be liberal. Anybody still trying to fight to retain the definition of liberalism, as it used to mean, is fighting a losing cause and they are feeding the progressive liberals and making them stronger. In short, those fighting to retain the definition of liberalism is enabling the growth of progressivism and it will result in the US becoming a slave nation, just like every other socialist nation you can think of which includes my own.

I’m not pushing for war, but I do recognize that talking to Putin and possibly allowing him to retain some territory where there is Russian ethnics would have been the solution that prevented the elimination of the Ukranian people.


136 posted on 11/20/2023 11:10:20 AM PST by Jonty30 (It turns out that I did not buy my cell phone for all the calls I might be missing at home.)
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