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President Trump Widens Lead Over Joe Biden – GOP Field Not Even Close
The Last Refuge ^ | September 26, 2023 | Sundance

Posted on 09/27/2023 9:51:39 AM PDT by SoConPubbie

There are a few interesting aspects about this Harris/Messenger poll [DATA HERE] that merit some discussion. First, the poll itself is a large sample size with solid cross tabs and demographics. This is not a media poll.

Second, the sample of independent voters is slightly less than norm. That means the actual reality of the Trump -vs- Biden portion of the poll is better than the result that is reflected. Independants increasingly favor Donald Trump. That said, this poll affirms previous recent polling showing that Trump is widening his lead amid all of the key demographics that matter. All good news for team Trump.

The poll, taken September 13-19 among 3,015 registered voters, found that Trump led Biden, 46%-41%. The margin of error was plus or minus 1.8 percentage points. (link)

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On the Republican primary it’s not even close, and even more people are starting to wonder now why any challenger remains in the race. With a clear party frontrunner this far ahead, all of the gnat challengers are simply hurting themselves. The longer this continues the more diminished their influence.

The donors and billionaires have come to the same conclusion, as shared in a rather lengthy NBC report yesterday. It’s not the campaigns. It’s not the consultants. It’s not the candidates…. It’s the voters. The formidable scale of the MAGA base voter has just worn down the Republican Party apparatus.

[Via NBC] – […] There is no major anti-Trump super PAC or significant donor financing a push to topple him as the party’s leader, and there is concern that, at this point, spending financial or political capital to undercut Trump is a fool’s errand.

In fact, the two major outside political organizations running ads urging voters to move away from Trump have so far not lived up to the mass anti-Trump spending campaign that some in the party had hoped for.

Five months out from the primary here, the anti-Trump effort is fragmented and weakened as no other Republican presidential candidate is able to even come close to the former president in the polls, despite his legal troubles.

And it’s not just South Carolina. Nationally, the hypothetical anti-Trump cavalry within the Republican Party has yet to materialize, and GOP strategists tell NBC News that it may be too late.

Even when a conservative group does try to hit Trump, it’s often nothing more than a glancing blow and focused on concerns about his ability to beat President Joe Biden. In fact, one spot this summer from one of those groups started with a voter saying, “I love Donald Trump.” (more)

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 09/27/2023 9:51:39 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

Apparently Not


2 posted on 09/27/2023 9:53:34 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: SoConPubbie

Polls do not matter. Elections do not matter. Our slave masters will not allow President Trump to return. You are not free. You are a slave. You will do as you are told. Wear your mask. Pay your bills and eat your bugs!


3 posted on 09/27/2023 9:54:20 AM PDT by Skul
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Roger that! They will do whatever it takes to ensure no outsiders ever wins the office again. W.H.A.T.E.V.E.R. it takes. 😳


4 posted on 09/27/2023 9:58:00 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉)
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To: SoConPubbie

How wide does Trump’s lead to be to counteract the most extensive voter fraud system in history?


5 posted on 09/27/2023 9:58:52 AM PDT by OHPatriot (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Skul
Ya, they complain about interfering with elections. Keeping Trump out sure seems to be interring to me. Do they not realize this fact? Maybe they think that we are stupid, maybe we are stupid.
6 posted on 09/27/2023 10:01:17 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Skul

Intelligence thugs like Clapper are starting to sweat... that means we’re still in the fight.


7 posted on 09/27/2023 10:03:00 AM PDT by GOPJ (GW Law Prof Catherine Ross feels 77 Million Trump supporters are Jan 6th and Trump can be Kangarooed)
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To: OHPatriot

That is why Biden and his goons are doing everything possible to flood America with as many illegals as possible so they can all vote Democrat..that is why Abbott is smart for shipping them out as soon as they arrive in Texas, they want to turn Texas blue, if that ever happened, forget about it its done


8 posted on 09/27/2023 10:04:20 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SoConPubbie

It’s a blowout Jim


9 posted on 09/27/2023 10:16:42 AM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: OHPatriot

Lemme see here..about over 20 million extra to combat let’s go Brandon’s horde of illegal invader voters! Insurmountable hill to climb! Another mountain is ticktock and Taylor Swift! Have you seen the sea of idiots fans the evil whore draws to one freaking concert? And that’s just two steep obstacles Trump is going to have to claw to the top of the hill by himself since the RNC is not helping one bit to get out the vote.


10 posted on 09/27/2023 10:19:29 AM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: SoConPubbie

Bought some gas last night.

$5.48 / gallon.

Tell me how anyone with more then a room temperature IQ could vote for Biden.

They’re really gonna have to run the ballot mill at full throttle to try to take this one.


11 posted on 09/27/2023 10:31:26 AM PDT by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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Tell me how anyone with more then a room temperature IQ could vote for Biden.

Anyone who votes for Biden has mental illness.

12 posted on 09/27/2023 10:32:49 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: OHPatriot

It’s not possible to beat the them. They shut the polling place down at 8:00pm and leave without finishing the vote count. The next morning they know how many votes are needed to win. And guess what? Boxes of absentee ballots are found that must be counted until the appropriate candidate is elected. The way to fix this is to make absentee ballots with paper that can be identified and watermarks that can’t be forged. Then, the ballots must be received by the close of the polls on vote day.


13 posted on 09/27/2023 10:45:50 AM PDT by abbastanza
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To: SoConPubbie
Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, has been done about outlawing cheat-by-mail-in ballots with no enforced signature verification.

Kari Lake's legal fights have pulled the curtain back on how these mail-ins are used to put the Democrat ahead after Election Day because they know how many they need.

Her cases are stuck in the lower courts with leftist Hack judges putting up as many roadblocks and dragging things out so nothing will be resolved by 2024.

She's trying to audit the mail-ins and see the signatures. They are fighting tooth and nail to stop her from doing that.

14 posted on 09/27/2023 10:56:23 AM PDT by HandBasketHell
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“GOP strategists tell NBC News that it may be too late.”

not really: the anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, Uniparty globalists can always join the pro-biden, pro-fascist, anti-Republic forces any time they feel like it ...


15 posted on 09/27/2023 11:05:46 AM PDT by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: SoConPubbie

According to https://electionbettingodds.com/PresidentialParty2024.html Trump leads Biden, but Democrats are still favored to elect the next President, 52.6% to 46.5%. The betting odds are assuming a Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama candidacy if needed.


16 posted on 09/27/2023 11:20:07 AM PDT by devere
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To: SoConPubbie

If Trump is going to choose from someone on that stage, he should do it now. Others should drop out. Coalition. His VP choice should campaign as VP now also.


17 posted on 09/27/2023 11:30:57 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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Trump should avoid all of them like the plague. In his first term he picked an establishment politician in an attempt to work with the Uniparty. This time around it needs to be someone who’s clearly outside the influence of the Uniparty.

It needs to be someone who can pick up the ball and continue running with it if, God forbid, something were to happen to him. That’s the smart move and it may be the best insurance he has to avoid being taken out in some way.

Possibilities? Kash Patel maybe? Devin Nunes, Tom Holeman, General Flynn? There are a number of intriguing possibilities.


18 posted on 09/27/2023 11:58:53 AM PDT by mbrfl
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If he chose now, the rest of the field would drop out. They are only staying because they all believe the last one standing will be his pick.


19 posted on 09/27/2023 12:19:13 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: TornadoAlley3

That’s probably true for a few of them - Ramaswamy, in particular. But others, like Christie, are in it for the paycheck. They’re being paid to try to beat up on Trump, with no expectation of being picked for VP let alone winning the nomination. They’ll drop out when their backers decide that it’s no longer with the money.


20 posted on 09/27/2023 12:30:10 PM PDT by mbrfl
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