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New Iowa poll presents a ‘very bleak picture’ for Ron DeSantis
Florida Politics ^ | September 21, 2023 | A.G. Gancarski

Posted on 09/21/2023 2:54:01 PM PDT by conservative98

'Trump has expanded his lead over DeSantis. DeSantis continues his backwards slide.'

A new survey shows Ron DeSantis may be no threat to Donald Trump in Iowa, but the Florida Governor is at least holding on to the second-place spot.

Otherwise, though, the pollsters note it’s a “very bleak picture” for DeSantis’ campaign.

The survey of 500 likely voters, conducted Sept. 17-19 by the Trump-friendly Fabrizio Lee, shows DeSantis at 15%, 30 points behind Trump. It’s the second poll in recent days showing DeSantis at 15%.

DeSantis has lost 3 points since the July administration of the poll, and he’s now just 2 points ahead of Nikki Haley (13%), who gained 3 points since the last time this poll was in the field.

“Nearly halfway through the 60-day do-or-die turnaround deadline set by Never Back Down (NBD) Chief Strategist Jeff Roe as reported in the New York Times, this data paints a very bleak picture for Team DeSantis,” the pollsters write in a memo accompanying these results.

“Despite NBD’s latest assault on the Iowa airwaves, former President Trump has expanded his lead over DeSantis. DeSantis continues his backwards slide, and worse, finds himself in a statistical tie for 2nd place with a surging Nikki Haley.”

The pollsters continue pushing the narrative of DeSantis-Haley parity throughout the memo.

“The bigger nightmare for DeSantis is, having slipped into 3rd or 4th place in some other early state polling, he now finds himself locked in a dogfight with Nikki Haley for 2nd place here in Iowa.”

The memo also notes that only 2 in 5 DeSantis voters are firmly committed to their candidate.

“While NBD and DeSantis have put all their eggs in the ‘stone cold dead’ message basket, it appears that the only thing stone cold dead is DeSantis’ campaign,” the memo continues.

“Millions and millions have been spent by NBD on media, mail, phones, and door knocking, yet since DeSantis’ entry in the race he has slipped even further behind President Trump who now leads by 30 points. Worse for DeSantis is he is now in a dog fight for 2nd place and in real danger of slipping into 3rd in a state he desperately needs to win.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: desantis; haley; iowa; jeffroe; nikkihaley; polls; trump
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1 posted on 09/21/2023 2:54:01 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

continued at the link: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/635802-bleak-ron/


2 posted on 09/21/2023 2:54:19 PM PDT by conservative98
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If Ron can not make a fight of it this time around, all he has to do is withdraw and wait another 4 years. After 4 more years of Demented Joe Biden, voters will be begging for him to run again. I sincerely hope Trump will not try for a 4th try at running for President, but one never knows.


3 posted on 09/21/2023 3:08:13 PM PDT by rod5591
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This run has generated a large group of never Ron votes.


4 posted on 09/21/2023 3:12:26 PM PDT by JayGalt (A proud slave must be broken before the contagion spreads. Ever was it thus.)
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To: rod5591

>>” I sincerely hope Trump will not try for a 4th try at running for President, but one never knows.”

Why would he? He won’t be allowed to after he finishes his second term. By then people will have forgotten DeSantis and all his pretensions.


5 posted on 09/21/2023 3:19:44 PM PDT by mbrfl
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I sincerely hope Trump will not try for a 4th try at running for President, but one never knows.

Your Trump Derangement Retardation is showing.

6 posted on 09/21/2023 3:20:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: JayGalt

I’ll be curious to see how Ron governs for the remaining three years of his governorship. I’m guessing he’ll just be going through the motions, but we’ll see.


7 posted on 09/21/2023 3:23:57 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: conservative98

I’d say “give it up and endorse DJT”, but nobody want a DeSantis supporter in the Trump camp.


8 posted on 09/21/2023 3:24:05 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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I told him to bring out the guac bowls. 😆


9 posted on 09/21/2023 3:28:23 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: mbrfl

You say that because that’s what he’s doing on the national stage?


10 posted on 09/21/2023 3:30:47 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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desanctimonious will be a lame duck...

So all he has to do is sit on his a**...

But then... the swamp GOPe uniparty may try to tempt him with running for senate.....


11 posted on 09/21/2023 3:42:55 PM PDT by backpacker_c
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Hard to say it’s because people don’t know you. Half of your initial support has been lost to Nikki Haley and Vivek. Vivek was definitely less known than Desanctimonius.


12 posted on 09/21/2023 3:50:09 PM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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I think he viewed being governor of Florida as a stepping stone to the presidency. I think when he drops out and realizes he’s not going to be president, there’s a good chance he’ll be bored with being governor and he’ll have less incentive to care about it. Being governor was like his audition for president. After he loses the nomination, I don’t think being governor will matter as much to him as it did. But we’ll see.


13 posted on 09/21/2023 3:50:44 PM PDT by mbrfl
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desanctimonious will be a lame duck...

So all he has to do is sit on his a**...


That’s kind of what I’m thinking.


14 posted on 09/21/2023 3:51:49 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: rod5591
I sincerely hope Trump will not try for a 4th try at running for President, but one never knows.

Prepare to be disappointed.

After Trump gets clobbered in 2024, and everyone on Free Republic cries "We wuz robbed!" they'll roll him out again in 2028 as "The Only Man Who Can Drain The Swamp!"

15 posted on 09/21/2023 3:54:41 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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I’d say “give it up and endorse DJT”, but nobody want a DeSantis supporter in the Trump camp.

Why because DeSantis makes Trump look bad in comparison? A conservative politician who can actually speak concisely and intelligently with repeating himself again and again like Trump?


16 posted on 09/21/2023 3:57:06 PM PDT by rod5591
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To: mbrfl
After he loses the nomination, I don’t think being governor will matter as much to him as it did. But we’ll see.

He'll be plenty busy defending Florida from Biden and a Democrat House, Senate, and SCOTUS.

17 posted on 09/21/2023 3:57:15 PM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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To: JayGalt
This run has generated a large group of never Ron votes.

Yes it has, no one likes a back stabber and DeSantis has shown himself to be a Bushbot back stabber. F Ron DeSantis.

18 posted on 09/21/2023 4:21:36 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: Drew68

Not likely.


19 posted on 09/21/2023 4:34:17 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: rod5591

Oh, you got it bad.


20 posted on 09/21/2023 5:05:04 PM PDT by JoSixChip (2020: The year of unreported truths; 2021: My main take away from this year? Trust no one.)
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