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Don't Be Surprised by China's Collapse || Peter Zeihan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqA5NODRnQI ^

Posted on 09/19/2023 12:38:39 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE

It's time to come out from under your rock and face the music - China is collapsing. If that comes as a shock to you, watch this video to get up to speed.


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To: USA-FRANCE

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41 posted on 09/19/2023 2:55:22 PM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: USA-FRANCE

China is in trouble, maybe big trouble. But Zeihan is always overly Gordon Chang-ish in how fast the collapse will come. They have a ways to go.


42 posted on 09/19/2023 4:05:45 PM PDT by LS
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To: ifinnegan

We let them join the WTO... a deadly mistake for the West.
We give, and get bitten in return.

The Tragic Legacy of Bill Clinton’s China Doctrine
https://www.policymagazine.ca/the-tragic-legacy-of-bill-clintons-china-doctrine/


43 posted on 09/19/2023 4:12:07 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: taxcontrol; LS

“The collapse has STARTED but has a LONG way to go”

“China is in trouble, maybe big trouble. But Zeihan is always overly Gordon Chang-ish in how fast the collapse will come. They have a ways to go.”

>>>>>>>>>

I agree... so I’m eating my popcorn very slowly.


44 posted on 09/19/2023 4:16:02 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

Yes. It goes further back than Clinton to Nixon/Kissinger, Carter and then Clinton who really solidified it, egregiously mouthing Chicom talking points as US President in Shanghai.

It was under Clinton that our tech companies began building the Chicom Great Firewall and what has come to be their techno totalitarian system, which having been dressed rehearsed there is being implemented here slowly but surely.


45 posted on 09/19/2023 4:18:09 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: central_va

“Communism is winning in the USA.”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

To be more precise, I think it’s more like Cultural Marxism.


46 posted on 09/19/2023 4:18:29 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

If China really does start to go under then don’t be surprised if they suddenly invade Siberia to retake it and distract the public from their complaints.

Seriously, they stand almost zero chance of successfully invading Taiwan and for what? A smoldering ruin and worldwide trade embargoes?

But there’s just no downside to invading and reconquering Siberia. It used to be theirs anyway so no one is going to complain about it, it won’t hurt trade, and it will make the people at home happier with the regime.


47 posted on 09/19/2023 4:32:27 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Vermont Lt

Our criticism is aimed at the corrupt D.C. elites, and not to the founding ideals and storied history of America itself.


48 posted on 09/19/2023 5:02:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: ansel12
Red China seems to have some fans here at FR judging by the responses.

Please post the links of FReepers who have praised China on this Forum. I want to see them and join you in condemning them.

49 posted on 09/19/2023 5:04:56 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Vermont Lt

They don’t hate America. They hate themselves. They blame America for what they see in the mirror.


50 posted on 09/19/2023 5:10:52 PM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Read the thread yourself, it has many posts similar to what we see on any thread that can be perceived as reflecting negatively on Russia.


51 posted on 09/19/2023 5:11:09 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
Read the thread yourself

I did. There's objective and righteous criticism for the lowlife scumbags in D.C. who are destroying America. That's not praising China.

it has many posts similar to what we see on any thread that can be perceived as reflecting negatively on Russia.

You guys NEVER put the blame on D.C. elites and their puppet masters in these globalist organizations. You live in a bygone world where Eye of the Tiger is playing non-stop and you're in a Rocky IV movie.

You need to just wake up and realize how rotten Washington is and criticizing them doesn't equate to siding with a foreign country.

52 posted on 09/19/2023 5:17:40 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Evidently it is especially important to do so on any thread that can be perceived as negative about Red China or Russia.


53 posted on 09/19/2023 5:28:30 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: USA-FRANCE

Peter is the best


54 posted on 09/19/2023 5:53:16 PM PDT by willWeEverBuildTheWall (DeSantis is the clear choice )
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To: MeganC

“But there’s just no downside to invading and reconquering Siberia. “

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Absolutely, China could retake a lot of area in Siberia, and probably without firing a shot. Russia is unprepared, and depleted now.
I think Putin has trapped himself when he allied himself with China.


55 posted on 09/19/2023 6:25:42 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: Yo-Yo

“China’s last gasp will be the invasion of Taiwan.
They’re stockpiling fuels and raw materials at a record pace, even as their manufacturing sector slows.
They’re preparing for something...”

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Indeed, something is going on... They may do something while Russia and the West are occupied elsewhere.

However, America has an army ready to fight on two fronts. China better not forget that.


56 posted on 09/19/2023 6:30:02 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: MeganC

Why would they bother to take Siberia? They have a growing labor shortage at home as it is, why send thousands of young men to the frontier?


57 posted on 09/19/2023 6:38:03 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative)
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To: JonPreston
the hate China bus

Jon, stop posting any more before everyone realizes what a true idiot you are

look, nobody is "hating China", we're just speaking the hard truth ... China is an oppressive police-state that routinely manipulates its statistics

they have foreign police stations to control ex-citizens abroad ... who does that??

China also caused the whole Covid mess,thru their incompetent pursuit of bioweapons, and lied to everyone about it

if China has a lousy image, then China has no one to blame but themselves

stop always apologizing for the brutal monsters - first Putin, now China

what's next, you'll be defending Iran?! Mullah Jon??


58 posted on 09/19/2023 6:43:50 PM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Because it belongs to them.


59 posted on 09/19/2023 6:44:05 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: canuck_conservative

Scram you Canadian coward. Xi owns you and Biden for that matter. That’s the state of your democracy, and that’s why it’s collapsing. Good riddance to bad trash.


60 posted on 09/19/2023 7:02:56 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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